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Re: Still 8.2 Rating on mmorpg.com

Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2008 5:03 pm
by iceaxe68
ajsuk wrote:QFE. It's a great game! (If you havn't been playing it for over 6 months, maybe a year. :p )
Tomorrow, Jan 10, is my 1 year birthday. I play nearly every day. So far, so good. Not tired of it yet. not hardly.

Re: Still 8.2 Rating on mmorpg.com

Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2008 6:42 pm
by ajsuk
iceaxe68 wrote:Tomorrow, Jan 10, is my 1 year birthday. I play nearly every day. So far, so good. Not tired of it yet. not hardly.
Well sure. I meant it with a touch of sarcasm. (Would you believe it? :p )
It's very possible to stretch out the content and make do. The point is you shouldn't have to, especially for a period of two years-plus.

Re: Still 8.2 Rating on mmorpg.com

Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2008 9:27 pm
by katriell
What is content?

Seriously.

And anyway, people who speed through "content" will get bored in about six months no matter what game they play.

Re: Still 8.2 Rating on mmorpg.com

Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2008 10:02 pm
by great83
katriell wrote: And anyway, people who speed through "content" will get bored in about six months no matter what game they play.

QFE

After a bit of time you stop playing a game for the "content" and the game it self and play to be with those people you call friends...

Re: Still 8.2 Rating on mmorpg.com

Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2008 11:04 pm
by whiterider
great83 wrote:QFE
Quoted in the interest of furthering this random QFE war

Re: Still 8.2 Rating on mmorpg.com

Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2008 11:17 pm
by ajsuk
You know very well what I mean,

Seriously.

So I'll leave you to it.

Re: Still 8.2 Rating on mmorpg.com

Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2008 11:28 pm
by katriell
ajsuk wrote:You know very well what I mean,

Seriously.

So I'll leave you to it.
People accuse WoW of not having enough content, too.

Re: Still 8.2 Rating on mmorpg.com

Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2008 12:45 am
by cushing
If content is being told what to do then probably you have plenty of it in WoW. I got bored of it after two weeks, and also I couldn't stand the crappy graphics any longer.

Here, on Ryzom, the content is what I make of it. To use my own head, my brains. To fix my own vision, my put my own ideas in a bigger, a fascinating context. And that all in the beautiful world that Atys is.

Re: Still 8.2 Rating on mmorpg.com

Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2008 10:48 am
by iphdrunk
katriell wrote: What is content?
Seriously.
Oh great :D

I do think that rehashing this beaten-to-death "oh what's content" phylosophical (sp?) argument is better than having almost no post to read while b@w.

It does bring me back old-memories of "grimjimesque" eternalish threads and snobbishky assumptions, so let's see what's next. I'll play a bit the devil's avocate here but let me state that there are lots of ways of basically "having fun in a MMRPG" on no one is better than the others :P

* 99% of MMRPG players may think that they have a solid understanding of what "content" means, or at least there seems to exist a common reasonable consensus (including, possibly, quests, new races, new items, new lands, new entities, more stories, new event arcs, etc.), yet there is always someone willing to pick on the word, just to point out that content can include other meanings and it is an open word, which is a noble thing to do, or, maybe without intention, to dismiss what, imho, could be a valid point.

* attitude A: "I can be entertained for months smelling the roses and counting the spots in a varynx skin, I can dream of adventures while looking at those pixels in the form of a rock (it does not matter that the 3D designer actually cut& pasted hundreds of square meters of trees) and I can roleplay that I am decorating a castle with a brown paper box. It is virtually impossible that you are bored after 8 months of playing. Surely you must have been doing something really bad, or your way of playing stinks. It's your problem."

* Variant of attitude A: "I have been playing for 6 years, 5 hours a day and I always find plenty of things to do, and my levels are below 17, all. See how cool I am? begone, you fool, simpleton, how do you dare to get bored while there are soooooo many entertaining and interesting things to do... such as classifying atysian insects by they nighty feeding habits!, this is such a wonderful setting world!!!. You probably rushed to have your first 250 in 2 years, so don't cry if you burn the game that fast"

* Attitude B: "I'd rather have live events and interesting story arcs than any stoopid ´save-the-princess-again´ quest" (no joke, seriusly, so would a lot of people, but ya know, they don't need to be mutually exclusive... and I would rather save-the-princess-again if I wanted to rather than writing poetry about the old fisherhomin that used to live in the fount, while he handcrafted wooden statues -- with all due respect to poetry loving players, your call- or maybe it happens that there are no live events right now that I have some spare time to play)

* "Any content addition will be consumed by players in a few hours/days, and they'll be soon asking for more content additions EEERGO, no content addition is better than any content addition" (I must admit, this one is tricky.. I am still unable to grab it too :confused :) . A more elaborate version is "EEERGO, we should focus on durable content additions" so there will be no content additions while we try to figure out what half-baked shortsighted durable content addition we can add.

* "My way of playing is sooo much emore elaborate and better than yours since I roleplay, smell the roses, write poetry and can name all the umphteen ancient matisian kings in reverse order with their birth days in ancient written fyrosian language and yet you just want to "kill mobs".


Just shaking things a bit, but I would like to state that it is a bit of a shame that everytime that someone complains about the lack of content (whatever your flavor-definition-of-the-day for that word) etc. needs to face a row of canned answers.

Acknowledging that there may be some truth in what the player says, and discussing with an open mind... and not caricaturing the players as dumb "youwin-button" pushers, ignorants that need to be told what to do, insensitive quest-repeaters and gold-farmers, totally lacking in lots of aspects in what some think to be the "true and only way of playing a MMRPG", may be a sensitive thing ?

(yes, mine is also a canned answer)

Yours,
Ani

Re: Still 8.2 Rating on mmorpg.com

Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2008 11:32 am
by komissar
Uhm....

There is one more canned answer: after reaching certain lvls and having "been there, done that" a mmorpg becomes a really fancy chatroom where teamplay and friends and guildmates whom you interact with in a beautyful world count for far more than "content"....

And darn, I haven't finished the Atysian flora atlas yet so don't go tempting me with Classifying insects by their night habits and writing it down with zorai pictograms, Ani :D

*hugs btw*