Ryzom

iphdrunk wrote:it seems so, yes. The google translation of that german interview is quite interesting. Apparently GF considers Ryzom their first "failure".

I will confess to being bitter about the situation, but it seems to me that GF have "succeeded" in their objective. It now appears they never had any intention of allowing Ryzom to become a success. While they cannot publicly state that they bought the game with no concern for the players, their lack of advertising and developmental support has provided fertile ground for conspiracy theories.

iwojimmy wrote:I will confess to being bitter about the situation, but it seems to me that GF have "succeeded" in their objective. It now appears they never had any intention of allowing Ryzom to become a success. While they cannot publicly state that they bought the game with no concern for the players, their lack of advertising and developmental support has provided fertile ground for conspiracy theories.

I'm not so sure, of course I try to imagine people are good, which isn't always true. But, it seems that after getting Ryzom, GF came to realization that the sub-base was lowered than foretold and then they had legal issues with getting the devs to be able to work on the code. So, they have less income than expected and horribly delayed development and they just didn't have enough capital to ride it all out.

10 months is 10 months....

GF only wanted the IP....

lets stop the BS


we were their pawns.. and the did suceed,, the closed shop in less then 12 months...

$15/month*4500subs=$67500/month*12months=$810000/year

Just enough money to probably employ what, eight people? Maybe more if they worked from their homes. No wonder all the paid CSRs were let go. I wonder how many devs there really were? And other staff?

Beautiful game, not horribly profitable.

$15/month*4500subs=$67500/month*12months=$810000/year
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Then they could have tried this.

A 3 month promotion that is tabulated on the fourth for billing.

Client cost for fourth month of game play.
3 referrals = Free Month
2 referrals = $5
1 referral = $10
0 referrals = $15

In the first run of this promotion assuming that only 1/2 of the players would participate total from the original crop and we half that each time as interest wanes.

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Original Crop(OC) = 4500 players

Month 1
OC Referred 1 new | 2250 * 15 = 33750
OC Referred 0 new | 2250 * 15 = 33750
Month 1 referrals | 2250 * 15 = 33750

Month 1 - Total Income = 101,250
Month 1 - 33,750 additional income
Month 1 - 6,750 total players

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Month 2
OC referred 2 new 1125 * 15 = 16875
OC referred 1 new 1125 * 15 = 16875
OC referred 0 new 2250 * 15 = 33750
Month 1 referrals referred 1 new 1125 * 15 = 16875
Month 1 referrals referred 0 new 1125 * 15 = 16875
Month 2 referrals 2250 * 15 = 33750

Month 2 - Total Income = 135,000
Month 2 - 67,500 additional income
Month 2 - 9,000 total players

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Month 3
OC referred 3 new 562 * 15 = 8430
OC referred 2 new 563 * 15 = 8445
OC referred 1 new 1125 * 15 = 16875
OC referred 0 new 2250 * 15 = 33750
Month 1 referrals referred 2 new 563 * 15 = 8445
Month 1 referrals referred 1 new 562 * 15 = 8430
Month 1 referrals referred 0 new 1125 * 15 = 16875
Month 2 referrals referred 1 new 1125 * 15 = 16875
Month 2 referrals referred 0 new 1125 * 15 = 16875
Month 3 referrals 2250 * 15 = 33750

Month 3 - Total Income = 168,750
Month 3 - 101,250 additional income
Month 3 - 11,250 total players

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Ignoring Expansion Here and just estimating billing...

Month 4
OC referred 3 new 562 * 0 = 0
OC referred 2 new 563 * 5 = 2815
OC referred 1 new 1125 * 10 = 11250
OC referred 0 new 2250 * 15 = 33750
Month 1 referrals referred 2 new 563 * 5 = 2815
Month 1 referrals referred 1 new 562 * 10 = 5620
Month 1 referrals referred 0 new 1125 * 15 = 16875
Month 2 referrals referred 1 new 1125 * 10 = 11250
Month 2 referrals referred 0 new 1125 * 15 = 16875
Month 3 referrals 2250 * 15 = 33750

Month 4 - Total Income = 135,000
Month 4 - 67,500 additional income
Month 4 - 11,250 total players

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In 4 months this could result in... 540,000
Versus the original model of... 270,000

If the promotion were to end that month.
The fifth month, and sixth and seventh etc. until the promotion started again, would be...168,750 once the promotion has ended.

Add that to the results of the 4 months and you have $708,750 and you have completed less than half the year which would mean if you stopped there...

708,750 + (7 mos @ 168,750) = 1181250 + 708750 = 1,890,000 yearly

Month 5
OC 4500 * 15 = 67500
Month 1 referrals 2250 * 15 = 33750
Month 2 referrals 2250 * 15 = 33750
Month 3 referrals 2250 * 15 = 33750
Month 4 referrals not calculated as promotion has ended but that doesn't mean new players didn't arrive.

We increased the population and the monthly budget to keep regular updates going. Of course it is just an estimation but it's a plan that may have worked better than not changing the structure that they already knew wasn't working when the project were purchased. Hope I didn't make any calculation mistakes but that's an idea at least. I try to be a problem solver

i doubt any one will buy it its market trend is horrable we are just a tight nit few holding on to it dam you WoW for flooding the mmorpg feild with crap