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Re: An Outpost Trivia Quiz (and an answer to Darmina)

Posted: Wed Sep 19, 2007 10:53 pm
by dakhound
martl wrote:i'm sure their allies won't let them starve, do you fellas even remember what levelling without boosts is like? :)

ps:Want a cookie with the whine? :D
mmm whine is now quoting facts not asking for cats to be banned and crying about imbalance? I hear balance is restored tho, kami got too many op's so they giving them to mercs :P

cookies and wine dont go well tbh
cheesy whiners however work well, and kami got plenty of them :P

anyways, not a flame thread, answer questions or dont take part, that is the choice I believe

(I'm barred as I know the answers)

Re: An Outpost Trivia Quiz (and an answer to Darmina)

Posted: Thu Sep 20, 2007 12:08 am
by riveit
dakhound wrote:( as I know the answers)
I doubt it. :p There are new questions and old answers have changed in some cases.

Re: An Outpost Trivia Quiz (and an answer to Darmina)

Posted: Thu Sep 20, 2007 6:29 am
by dakhound
riveit wrote:I doubt it. :p There are new questions and old answers have changed in some cases.

oooh cool thought all Ka was banned as we saw old quiz answers :P

Re: An Outpost Trivia Quiz (and an answer to Darmina)

Posted: Thu Sep 20, 2007 8:32 am
by akovylin
riveit wrote:14) How many times have Kamist guilds attacked the KA during the US sleeping hours (2 am or 3 am in a US timezone)?
What about other countries sleeping and working hours?

Re: An Outpost Trivia Quiz (and an answer to Darmina)

Posted: Thu Sep 20, 2007 8:44 am
by dakhound
1) Which outpost(s) have changed hands most often from hostile attacks?

Malmont Farm

2) Which outpost(s) have been traded in friendly transfers most often?

finders farm

3) Which guild(s) have won the most attacks?

nexus

4) Which guild(s) have received the most friendly outpost transfers?

TnE?

5) Which guild lost an outpost fastest due to an attack?

shifty kami guild who lost gu-qin

6) Which guilds still hold the outposts that they originally took from marauders (in Dec. 2005)?

as above but RRa too


The following questions are based on my records beginning May 1, 2006. All of these questions refer to the time since then.

7) Which outpost has been attacked most often? (since May 1, 2006)

Malmont farm


8) Which outpost has been attacked the 2nd, 3rd and 4th most often? (since May 1, 2006)

gu-qin,zo-kian, lost valley

9) Which guild has been attacked most often? (since May 1, 2006)

TnE courtsy of piiri

10) Which guilds did the most attacks (since May 1, 2006)?

nexus coursty of multi declare fun

11) How times have KA outposts been attacked since May 1, 2006?

70

12) How many attacks have KA guilds done since May 1, 2006?

15

13) How many times have Kamist guilds attacked the KA during the US workday?

70

14) How many times have Kamist guilds attacked the KA during the US sleeping hours (2 am or 3 am in a US timezone)?

no idea

15) How many times have KA guilds attacked at 22:00 GMT – 8:00 GMT?

4

16) How many times have KA guilds attacked at 23:00 GMT – 8:00 GMT?

nearly the same question

17) How many times have the Kamist and KA guilds employed simultaneous multiple war declarations (as initial attacks or counterattacks)?

6

18) How many hostile war declarations have been made in total?

120ish inc stupid declares

Re: An Outpost Trivia Quiz (and an answer to Darmina)

Posted: Thu Sep 20, 2007 9:10 am
by tigrus
That OP being donated to us wasnt because they had to many OPs so dont be mean to em jackie :p

Re: An Outpost Trivia Quiz (and an answer to Darmina)

Posted: Thu Sep 20, 2007 12:28 pm
by riveit
akovylin wrote:What about other countries sleeping and working hours?
I'll modify the timezone questions to make them symmetrical. I should have used North American instead of US, but was too lazy to check into Canadian and Mexican daylight savings time etc. I was referring to timezones (GMT-5 to GMT-9) during standard times, (GMT-4 to GMT-8) during daylight savings time.

Re: An Outpost Trivia Quiz (and an answer to Darmina)

Posted: Thu Sep 20, 2007 1:18 pm
by vim79
lol cry cry cry

Re: An Outpost Trivia Quiz (and an answer to Darmina)

Posted: Thu Sep 20, 2007 1:29 pm
by arfindel
Most of last questions are biased as they are formulated. Their order is made to make the reader get certain conclusions. I am pretty sure Riv didn't mean to carefully place them as such, just it was the moment that made him place them.

Example:
11) How times have KA outposts been attacked since May 1, 2006?

12) How many attacks have KA guilds done since May 1, 2006?
The normal order of these questions is:
How many attacks have KA guilds done in the X range?
How many attacks have the kamis done in the X range?
How many of the KA attacks were successful?
How many of the kami attacks were successful?

That's the logical and choronological order which leads to logical conclusions because the loser will have a target and the winner in some cases will hurry to take advantage in others will slow down as there was nothing to take anymore without attacking allies.

These are irrelevant questions and generally leading to flame wars:
14) How many times have Kamist guilds attacked the KA during the North American sleeping hours (2 am or 3 am in a North American timezone)?

15) How many times have KA guilds attacked during the European workday? (using GMT to GMT+4 standard timezones including daylight savings shift)

16) How many times have KA guilds during the European sleeping hours (2 am or 3 am in a European timezone)?
Generally wars started from hours good for everybody and finished by each faction setting their hours at their best time. If we want to argue endlessly "you! no, you!" we can, but it's meaningless and slightly kindergarteen-ish, at least for me. Both factions have both europeans and americans, and there is no control over all guilds to make them set times when RIv or me or dramina or anybody wants. People use their own criteria, that's the game. Everybody has 2 chances to set the hour so it's fair even if not excessively nice. Nowadays there isn't a single all european or all american guild on Atys I guess. If you really want time zone questions then better make them over a long range of time to see how social pressure weakened, and guilds composition enriched.


As all is based on statistics can be interesting to see development of factions over time. There are for example range of time when neutrals kept one or more OPs. How many neutral guilds active were in that range. They lost that (only one neutral OP remaining). How many neutral guilds remained active in 2 weeks after that, what about in a month?
There was a range of time when KA guilds got a majority of OPs. How many KA guilds at begining of time range, how many at the end, same for kami guilds.

I suggest rather adding some more interesting ones related to the civilisation of guilds detaining an OP, how much it has changed over time for example. How many times a war had any lore coverage? Can also see what guilds disbanded upon losing an OP. Can also see how much attention gets a q250 versus a q100, if/what mats produced by OPs get attention, aso.

I am very curious to see if my theory is real and the symbolical meaning of certain OPs is in players eyes more important than the mat produced. Also if the mirage of q250 is not more attractive than basical advantages of the mat produced in certain OPs.

Re: An Outpost Trivia Quiz (and an answer to Darmina)

Posted: Thu Sep 20, 2007 1:33 pm
by slippery
How many attack or defense rounds have karavan set at 1-6 am european times? :P

Ofc kami have attacked more, ofc they have won more OPs, but not long ago we only owned a small percentage of OPs, we had more to gain.