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Well usually when someone says "Group X cannot reply", they usually do... in droves. If you don't like us Matis digging up supreme in Nexus, why don't you come and kill us? There's nothing stopping you from doing that either.

johnne wrote:Well usually when someone says "Group X cannot reply", they usually do... in droves. If you don't like us Matis digging up supreme in Nexus, why don't you come and kill us? There's nothing stopping you from doing that either.

You decided if everyone was ignoring the "group X shouldn't reply" you'd go ahead and ignore the "not wanting anything relating to pvper"?

mrshad wrote:On the other hand, it does effect all player equally.
There is nohting stopping a Fyros from taking his pick to the forest floor.
Given that any player of any race can start in any land, I just don't see how any of the issues in the original post unfailry affect one race over another.

Then again, I play a matis as my main, so I wasn't supposed to comment here.

quite correct.............wait dammit I agreed with mrshad

dakhound wrote:quite correct.............wait dammit I agreed with mrshad

I know, it's a weird feeling isn't it

The Forest is, in my experience, one of the most difficult regions to navigate, particularly at lower levels. I'd put the Desert as second most difficult.

The Beng Amber is not related to the Rite. The Kitin Saliva, etc, are. That's not a very pretty place to dig, either, with the gingos and ragus right at the top of a blind ramp.

The desert has one of the best digging spots, so far as convenience - that would be Dryon. There are two neutral-friendly teleporters (Kami in the town, Kara outside). In fact, all of the Desert cities are accessible by both Karavan and Kami teleporters and both are neutral-friendly. This, I would say, is a very large benefit/convenience.

The jungle consists largely of herbivores. That's the first land I managed to travel from Zora, through all the other regions, without being eaten, and all at < 100 skill levels in anything, except maybe forest digging.

The lakelands... water is safety (even if it does take forever to get places *grins*)

As to Nexus and Forest-only Supreme materials: I can be killed on a whim while I'm hovering over a volatile node. It's also a very painful place to get to (sans group), and beyond that it is still very dangerous due to the torbak, cuttler, and gibbai that make their homes there.

For a long while I did think that these things you've mentioned were possibly unequal for the different races. Considering how much easier it's been for me to dig in the desert, the jungle (except Bajam), and the few places I've dug in the lakelands... I'm not sure anymore that there is an imbalance.

By the time a digger is skilled enough to survive and to competently dig in Nexus Minor... they should be able to do just about the same in the Prime Roots - which is far more valuable (be it for selling or crafting).

As another point of possible consideration, you did not mention that Silan is Forest region, so any digger coming from Silan already has a foot up in Forest digging, versus whatever other region they may choose as their "home". Having chosen to play a Matis, without knowing this, I obviously haven't had any complaints. Even still, taking an alt from Silan and going to the Desert hasn't been too terribly difficult either. I already have the skill points to make the digging easier, and on the mainland I could find a guild for that alt and very quickly have people more than willing to help me get my desert levels higher.


Oh, Riveit! I've seen some pretty nice bones from the Lakelands and Jungles, though my experience with unique creature materials ('bosses' in the regular language) is pretty limited, so it's hard for me to really make an averaging of their benefits/drawbacks.

I can't, at the moment, think of other inequality potentials. I rather like the different advantages/disadvantages of the different lands. It helps reflect the differing nature of the world. The regions are different, the people are different. It's how we use those differences that levels the field, as it were.

Also;

Keep in mind that a middle aged white man who says he's never seen any evidence of racial or gender discrimination just doesn't hold much weight.

A person's stereotypes do not define their breadth or depth of experience.

Well I recognized early on that PR was going to yield the best forage materials and flat out stopped digging forest completely. I suppose I could pick up forest again to dig in Nexus but... why would I do a silly thing like that?

johnne wrote:Well I recognized early on that PR was going to yield the best forage materials and flat out stopped digging forest completely. I suppose I could pick up forest again to dig in Nexus but... why would I do a silly thing like that?

Well possibley and guessing with limited knowledge about the Nexus but there is a limit of the amount of excels and supremes of each mat that can be harvested from each area in the prime roots and there isn't a limit on the forest excels that way.

ashling wrote:Well possibley and guessing with limited knowledge about the Nexus but there is a limit of the amount of excels and supremes of each mat that can be harvested from each area in the prime roots and there isn't a limit on the forest excels that way.

There are limits in Nexus just like PR. But if you want unlimited exc, go to any other forest/jungle/desert/lake zone.

sehracii wrote:There are limits in Nexus just like PR. But if you want unlimited exc, go to any other forest/jungle/desert/lake zone.

That was the part I wasn't sure off, had no idea if Nexus had limits or not. Thanks Sehracii