Faction Nerfs...

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nillian
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Without wanting to turn this into the same old neutral/faction debate about TPs, neutrals shouldn't be on the same footing as factioned players. Until neutrals actually become a third faction (Tryton or something) then I and many others (including quite a lot of neutrals I've spoken to) don't believe that neutrals should have the same advantages as factioned players. Zahan discussed a good idea with me however, about the canopy. Canopy opens, Kara have access to it (almost like PR with sups, lots of aggro etc) but Kami cannot get there easily at all. Karavan cannot easily get to the PR, Kami have full access. Neutrals get access to 1/2 of each. Lots of imbalance issues here, supreme inflation etc, but if discussed and worked out, it (in a fantasy future where GF have infinite money, devs, and time) would bring balance to the whole issue.

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nillian wrote:Halve the amount of supreme mats found in a regular node, and slightly increase the amount of excellent mats. I feel there are too many supreme items in the game, they seem to be the standard. It shouldn't be like this if you ask me. I'd be much happier if excellent was the standard, and supremes were actually a lot rarer and more 'uber'.
that is because you still can dig sup reliably (server reset/season change).

there should be "whoa, i poped sup" moments (i'm sure every pr digger remembers those from their early pr days).
only one solution for this: 1% chance of poping sup when it's right weather (w/o mats per spot limit).

second is that you dont really dig sup, but equivalent mission mats (non trade) that you can excange for sups (limited per person in season) at special npc. sup mats you get are tradable ofcourse.

anyway, we can dream all we want, but "pr tp's, no patrols, sup/boss pops in server reboot, hawker/merchant wannabe exploit" are here to stay. unfortunately.
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blaah wrote:anyway, we can dream all we want, but "pr tp's, no patrols, sup/boss pops in server reboot, hawker/merchant wannabe exploit" are here to stay. unfortunately.
Not necessarily :P We just have to wait and see if GF listens to some of us. The changes shuoldn't be too difficult to implement I wouldn't have thought. Would make a huge difference too!
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Mmmh, anyone wonders if there are gonne be tps in the Kitin lair...??

(srr maybe slightly off topic :p just wondered about it)

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nillian wrote:Without wanting to turn this into the same old neutral/faction debate about TPs, neutrals shouldn't be on the same footing as factioned players.
the whole faction thing in Ryzom is unfinished (it was also said that spires were meant to go live with all this tp/faction change, but was pulled back)

neutrals have 33% penalty for tp's (pr/q250 area tp's), benefits ? oh yeah, not affected by spires.

factioned has 100% of all tp's, penalty ? well, was supposed to be spires but those will (never) be ingame.

i anything needs to be given for factioned player, it's spires (not neccessary pvp only). then it would actually mean something to be factioned ;-)
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yes, yes, yes. bring back kitin patrols. The whole game is too easy these days, especially PR which at least used to be challenging.
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nillian wrote:IMO PR should be nearly impossible for everybody. PR is far too easy nowadays, too many noobs with high PR levels getting sup mats (yes, that includes me *grin*)

far to easy??? humm strange that i die more than i can get lvls up

and show me all teh noobs in PR i´m nearly every day in PR and i dun see any noobs

the PR is only to easy for u Guys cause u are every day in PR and dig Sup Mats and u know all ways to get them ,but for ppl like i am ,is it damn hard in PR atm and when we would had a Kitin Patrol in PR then it would destroy all my Fun for PR

when you want Kitin patrol then wait till the Kitin lair is done and u get ur Kitin patrols
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xzizoux wrote:far to easy??? ...i´m nearly every day in PR ...the PR is only to easy for u Guys cause u are every day in PR...
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blaah wrote:only one solution for this: 1% chance of poping sup when it's right weather (w/o mats per spot limit).
This could be a good solution, though is 1% a little extreme? *shrug* Perhaps we could discuss this IG, along with some of other avid PR foragers out there who are aggrieved at how saturated the world has become with Supremes :) We could perhaps make a proposal for GF like Sehraci (And someone else, I forget, I apologise) did for Ranged.
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I have no problem with KP, if neutrals get PR TPs.

Otherwise forget it. Had enough of neutral nerfing.

EDIT:

New suggestion, if PR is too easy as is, remove TPs there.
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nillian wrote:This could be a good solution, though is 1% a little extreme?
i dont think so (it may even be too high, maybe even 0.1% for sup)... and i didnt meant to to be "Cast sup only prospect and then you have 1% chance of poping sources" ;-) . it will be choice mats but you have 1% chance that one green bubble as sup or 10% chance it to be excellent etc.
that way you do you day-to-day pr mat grind, but get "whoa, sup mat" every once in a while ;-)

edit: maybe add that to race lands too ?
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