Ryzom

question still stands zysha

So...

We shouldn't have made a guild of friends.
We shouldn't have worked hard to gain the levels to win the OPs (btw you can level without cats, people did it for 2 years before outposts were implemented, we levelled our main skills without why couldn't others.)
We shouldn't help other guilds take OPs.
We shouldn't all be Kami.
We shouldn't take Ops in other lands.
We shouldn't offer help to other players.
We shouldn't recuit.
We shouldn't have fun.

Its seems to me that you are blaming us for playing the game.


Personally it seems to me you want people to suceed in Ryzom, as long as they don't get better than you at it.

borg9 wrote:Its seems to me that you are blaming us for playing the game.

lol, the list reminded me of kami whine (yep, right word) about KA on arispotle.
now, they (yep, right word) doing it in cho.

at least we having fun, right

This thread is about Outpost For Sale (FREE!)

mikkko wrote:This thread is about Outpost For Sale (FREE!)

I know, but I am not happy that someone who has no intention of staying in Atys, has moaned about the crafting system not being fair and has directly attacked members of the guild for doing nothing but playing the game, should go unanswered.

Their intention is clear in the post that they don't have the backbone to fight in game, so they have resorted to forum PvP.

Seren,

I pulled that thread because it relates to the point Morgaine raised re: creating opportunities for kara to participate in op ownership. Praha noted on a thread in general forum that Cho population is falling and in my view The Inquisition has connected A & B and is acting to increase not only kara but sustainable server population. Scarazi's post is in my view in staggering discord with the impact of Kami having in realistitic terms excluded Kara from op ownership and the view that the espoused ends are being served by those who are doing the excluding needed to be challenged in my view. I would have quoted that thread were it posted by a DCP member - that it came from a guild that uber owns ops was relevant to me, not which guild or the person posting it.

Yes, I think 2 guilds own most of the ops makes the game less fun for others and I know it causes loss of subscriptions. You can as you have attack me for holding this view. You can allege that I am the attacker despite I made no comment about EoA and which guild that post was made by was utterly irrelevant to me. You can say I have no right to comment since I am leaving game anyway, and that ppl who don't like losing 100s of hours of mat collecting to fails are unfit to comment. Doesn't change my view.

One thing only deserves rebuttal and that is Seren's imputation that had I got a community op on Cho it would have been for kara only. It would have been the same as on Aris Seren. I truly don't care what faction ppl are in and gave to all who were excluded from op goodies without asking and in many cases not knowing what faction ppl were in. On Aris there were more Kami than Kara without ops so they were the greatest beneficiaries, here there are more Kara, but Kami without would have been given to in equal measure, same as Kara were when I was a Kami on Arispotle.

Games are for fun in my view, and feeling excluded from the goodies and powerless to do anything about that isn't fun. That, not faction, was and is my motivation, that and desire to help the game that I once loved keep more players and survive.

Zysha

borg9 wrote:Its seems to me that you are blaming us for playing the game.

Personally it seems to me you want people to suceed in Ryzom, as long as they don't get better than you at it.

The second point is just silly as I wouldn't be here to know would I lol, and also silly if u knew me well, but I think perhaps we find some agreement on the first point as you are indeed playing the game as the devs designed it, and that you play it to their design and well shouldn't give rise to feelings of discomfort that your so doing is at expense of the pleasure of others. On the playing it well note, you have, no question and commendations from other kara too on that count - and sincere ones. It was acknowleged as good strategy to get in early to get first op to gear up for second and so on.

I can see how my comments impinge on ur feelings of enjoyment - can see how you end up feeling blamed by me, and now I reflect on it I have been seeking through establishing a community op and raising these issues here to remedy design faults that are not of the players' creation. You didn't design ops - and sorry you didn't as your events on Aris were great and I have confidence you would have done better. So you aren't to blame and perhaps we can agree that these issues are artifacts of the way in which Nevrax implemented ops. Should we be our brother's keepers in the face of design faults in mmos? My answer is to leave and find a game that doesn't emulate SA apartheid and require me to contemplate questions like that

Sincere good wishes to all of you

Zysha

PS Sorry Fas! Glad u got a sale in the middle of this somewhere

BID: My prize of 300k death penalty points I won during trekking my guild mates from Fyros to Zorai...

~ Zurzum @ Cho

azhukov wrote:BID: My prize of 300k death penalty points I won during trekking my guild mates from Fyros to Zorai...

~ Zurzum @ Cho

Im sorry Azhukov, but zangan bid is more intresting.
Which is leading right now with:
"The pride and dignity of helping a fellow Kami guild to become great and to lead Atys away from baby-eating Karavan!"

around 3 hours before the auction is closed.

.... deleted a misunderstanding ....