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Re: So there IS life after WoW !!!

Posted: Wed Nov 08, 2006 4:02 pm
by wizaerd
So in all reality, there really is no minimap, right? There's the map, which you can scroll the mousewheel to zoom in/out, and resize the window, but there's no actual minmap?

Re: So there IS life after WoW !!!

Posted: Wed Nov 08, 2006 4:26 pm
by sx4rlet
yup, that is right.

Re: So there IS life after WoW !!!

Posted: Wed Nov 08, 2006 4:27 pm
by Solaya
Why hit F12?
Because many people - like me for exmaple - use mousbuttons (both pressed down) for movement and don't want to lose their targets :D It's a good thing your target sticks for 250 meters approx, as long as you don't deliberately change it.

Also, not only /alert will make you jump, but surely surely the fire-spell at lvl 125 elemental will make you jump ;) (for joy too! *g*)

True, there is no real minimap. Atys is not a dungeon with x's marking interesting spots and spoiling the travel. You have to find out yourself and make your own landmarks. Though, certainly, you might at some point be angry about the map when you travel through Zorai the first couple of times ;-)

Re: So there IS life after WoW !!!

Posted: Wed Nov 08, 2006 6:36 pm
by sehracii
wizaerd wrote:So in all reality, there really is no minimap, right? There's the map, which you can scroll the mousewheel to zoom in/out, and resize the window, but there's no actual minmap?
You can shrink the window the actual map is in and keep it open in the corner for use as a "minimap". Does that acheive what you're looking for?

Re: So there IS life after WoW !!!

Posted: Wed Nov 08, 2006 6:56 pm
by aoafizz
So from now on, I will refer to it not as a minimap but a radar. I still find it unhelpful. I will be using the "shrinking the map" suggestion.

I find that not being able to jump is unrealistic. It's not that I want to be a homin pogo stick. ;) I want to leap because a normal humanoid can. They can also run sideways though in reality it is generally dangerous to do so as your attention is usually directed elsewhere if you are doing that. Certainly the combat in Ryzom has no "twitch" factor so jumping is unnecessary in combat. I still would like to be able to do it, however. It just seems weird to not be able to jump ... it's unnatural when you do it as part of animations but at no other time.

Re: So there IS life after WoW !!!

Posted: Wed Nov 08, 2006 7:04 pm
by wizaerd
I too have to agree, especially having to go around very low obstacles that would seem natural to just hop over... Because other games (and their players) abused it to the point of ridiculousness, doesn't make it an undesirable or unuseful ability...

Re: So there IS life after WoW !!!

Posted: Wed Nov 08, 2006 7:11 pm
by aoafizz
wizaerd wrote:I too have to agree, especially having to go around very low obstacles that would seem natural to just hop over... Because other games (and their players) abused it to the point of ridiculousness, doesn't make it an undesirable or unuseful ability...
My point exactly. :)

Re: So there IS life after WoW !!!

Posted: Wed Nov 08, 2006 8:06 pm
by mvk3533
wizaerd wrote:I too have to agree, especially having to go around very low obstacles that would seem natural to just hop over... Because other games (and their players) abused it to the point of ridiculousness, doesn't make it an undesirable or unuseful ability...
Hrmm... I have to disagree. IRL I rarely, if ever, hop. I just step over, on, or go around obstacles. And in my observation of other adults they do the same (children will sometimes hop, but the Homins we play aren't children, or so I understand).

I find it refreshing not to see players jumping all over the place (Which is very unrealistic. How many plate wearing people are going to hop everywhere they go?). Though when I've been bored running to a quest location hopping was more of a "I need something to do" activity than needed to clear any ingame obstacles. ;)

Re: So there IS life after WoW !!!

Posted: Wed Nov 08, 2006 8:12 pm
by wizaerd
mvk3533 wrote:Hrmm... I have to disagree. IRL I rarely, if ever, hop. I just step over, on, or go around obstacles. And in my observation of other adults they do the same (children will sometimes hop, but the Homins we play aren't children, or so I understand).
IRL, I'm 41 years old, and still hop. Although I do see your point, I rarely see other people hopping (what a sight that would be, eh?). However, in-game it's not really possible to "step over" low obstacles either. I'd rather jump (hop) over it, than go around it. Especially if used in a strategic retreat, where the chasing mob can't jump, and does have to go around. Jumping could very save your life sometime...

Re: So there IS life after WoW !!!

Posted: Wed Nov 08, 2006 9:35 pm
by bluefve
mvk3533 wrote:...(children will sometimes hop, but the Homins we play aren't children, or so I understand)....
Erm... Trykers may NEED a hopping feature ;)