Ryzom

meloner wrote:I always thought Jena looked like some kind of astronaut in that suit of hers
Elias >>> Elias Tryton ?? As far as I know he's a homin ! not a human scientist /confused

That would start a huge debate which is all very subjective.

- Trykers created in the image of Elias
- Elias, husband of Jena
- Elias has teleport (rainbows) technology
- Elias has told the history of Atys since the being (until they changed the lore) and was here are the beginning.
- Elias used the term 'Mankind' in one of his quotes.

Who knows, but as he is currently testing Kitin lairs it will be a while before we can ask him.

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia:

The term rhizome has been used by Carl Jung as a metaphor, and by Gilles Deleuze as a concept, and of course refers to the botanical rhizome.

Carl Jung used the word "rhizome", also calling it a "myzel", to emphasize the invisible and underground nature of life:

Life has always seemed to me like a plant that lives on its rhizome. Its true life is invisible, hidden in the rhizome. The part that appears above the ground lasts only a single summer. Then it withers away—an ephemeral apparition. When we think of the unending growth and decay of life and civilizations, we cannot escape the impression of absolute nullity. Yet I have never lost the sense of something that lives and endures beneath the eternal flux. What we see is blossom, which passes. The rhizome remains. (Prologue from "Memories, Dreams, Reflections")

Gilles Deleuze and Félix Guattari used the term "rhizome" to describe theory and research that allows for multiple, non-hierarchical entry and exit points in data representation and interpretation. In A Thousand Plateaus, they opposed it to an arborescent conception of knowledge, which worked with dualist categories and binary choices. A rhizome works with horizontal and trans-species connections, while an arborescent model works with vertical and linear connections. Their use of the "orchid and the wasp" was taken from the biological concept of mutualism, in which two different species interact together to form a multiplicity (i.e. a unity that is multiple in itself). Horizontal gene transfer would also be a good illustration.

Jeff Vail has used it to describe a non-hierarchical structure for society.

ok ok here's a plan : next IRL meeting get a gm drunk and just ask

meloner wrote:ok ok here's a plan : next IRL meeting get a gm drunk and just ask

Tried TWICE!

meloner wrote:ok ok here's a plan : next IRL meeting get a gm drunk and just ask

It won't work. You know *they* don't know.

borg9 wrote:Not based on facts or quotes, just my opinion...

Atys - the plant planet, was terraformed by 'Elias & Jena' two scientists.

The RYZOM is the root or seed that was used in the process.

The DRAGON is the spaceship/rocket that carried the RYZOM into the heart of the dead ATYS.

The KAMI a 'freak happening' a result of the experiment creating sentient beings.

The HOMIN slaves, genectically made to inhabit/work/exploit ATYS resources.

The KARAVAN are observers and collectors of resources.

The KITIN parasites/insects on the DRAGON which got metamorphosed during the teraforming process.

The GOO is the experiment breaking down due to unstablity.

Just my thoughts...

Think we need to dig up that Jessican Mulligan German TV interview... explained it all in just a few mins... that Atys is Earth, that Homins and Humans and the result of some bio-weapon or something. um.... Acidriel? lil help here?

meloner wrote:Elias >>> Elias Tryton ?? As far as I know he's a homin ! not a human scientist /confused

The lore does describe Elias as a 'man' at times, although it uses man to describe male homins in spots also.

The Karavan temple lores says Elias is "a fallen prophet who was corrupted by the Dragon, has reappeared on Atys and tries to influence the homins. He is the one behind the Great Swarming, unleashing the anger of the Kitins to demolish homin civilizations, he opened magic portals to send the survivors into the shadows of the Prime Roots." I think that the term prophet is the same as the Karavan, who are also called "disciples of Jena" and the "Elect of the Karavan." However, prophets could be a subset of the Karavan or some other folks who travel with Jena.

meloner wrote:I always thought Jena looked like some kind of astronaut in that suit of hers
Elias >>> Elias Tryton ?? As far as I know he's a homin ! not a human scientist /confused

Personally Elias Tryton is one of the most mythical persons in the lore I think. Which makes it only more fun for me to balance between kami and karavan, and it makes me hope the Trytonists are still in the story, and will play some part somewhere...

To be honest, Ryzom is the drug that make us stay on Atys.

Ask how many oldtimers tried to stop playin, but the Ryzom force
them to stay in the system

So, Ryzom is the virus

And there is no medicin for it.

Or is it a lifestyle?

sx4rlet wrote:Personally Elias Tryton is one of the most mythical persons in the lore I think. Which makes it only more fun for me to balance between kami and karavan, and it makes me hope the Trytonists are still in the story, and will play some part somewhere...

[OOC]I've got to agree with ya here... the problem is the story isn't moving and we are marking time. I think Elias could have been an intriguing character (and had to be originally as his words were so prominent in the earlier writings) and one that many could rally behind.

Unfortunately he is now revered as a legend, but not much more than the K/K stuff. Because we didn't start out with 2 sides we weren't ready for the changes of being factionalised, this type of game (which we will never have I am afraid) would have been a great way for Trytonists to pop in as a third choice. Think of how hard it is for a non-Trytonist wannabe (trying to find a descriptive word without saying neutral ) to consider his appearance when the oppressive factions aren't doing anything.

Elias Tryton was very much an intriguing character in the "Saga", but like the old "Atys 1" some things change and I cannot see any reason to bring him to the forefront as there is so little to fight for and it would/could mean a serious revamp of some things (including the possibility of so called neutral/Trytonist teleports and such)... So many possibilities, but even my new found optimism cannot really see much hope for this one.[/OOC]