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Re: Been neutral
Posted: Sat Oct 28, 2006 2:40 pm
by ajsuk
If only I could word things as beautifully as our Ani...
Re: Been neutral
Posted: Sat Oct 28, 2006 2:44 pm
by grimjim
ajsuk wrote:If only I could word things as beautifully as our Ani...
Oh, I don't know. Being wrong succinctly saves a lot of time.
Re: Been neutral
Posted: Sat Oct 28, 2006 2:55 pm
by iphdrunk
grimjim wrote:Oh, I don't know. Being wrong succinctly saves a lot of time.
One could be very verbose to explain the difference between religion and morality, but what'd the point?
Re: Been neutral
Posted: Sat Oct 28, 2006 2:57 pm
by grimjim
iphdrunk wrote:One could be very verbose to explain the difference between religion and morality, but what'd the point?
None here, but its a great discussion that I love to have in other fora.
Re: Been neutral
Posted: Sat Oct 28, 2006 2:58 pm
by vguerin
aardnebb wrote:The Karavan: are destroying Atys for their own greed and exploitative purpose.
The Kami: hypocritically compromise their own ideals when it suits them, and do the above occasionally.
They both: command their minions to kill each other to uphold their "ideals".
If you are neutral because you chose not to march in lockstep with these questionable "higher powers" then you are certainly displaying a certain amount of moral fiber lacking in their minions (unless the minions are simply blind to the realities of the situation, I suppose you can be moral but oblivious in a faction).
Thats moral superiority. There is nothing _wrong_ with playing a morally flawed character, heck all of the best characters in any setting are flawed in some way. But thats your choice.
History has a way of leveling us all out, except maybe our local comedy duo. The factions have in the past asked that we do exactly like you state, however it was situational and isolated to the pertaining event. DURING those events you guys were marching in lock step with the declarations made by at least one side...
Moral superiority is not a proclamation you make, it's a state of being based on actions (or lack of them) that would drag you down with the masses. Being in lock step with others while travesties such as those you attribute to the factions above and later acting innocent...
...that has another name !
Re: Been neutral
Posted: Sat Oct 28, 2006 3:03 pm
by grimjim
vguerin wrote:Moral superiority is not a proclamation you make, it's a state of being based on actions (or lack of them) that would drag you down with the masses. Being in lock step with others while travesties such as those you attribute to the factions above and later acting innocent...
...that has another name !
Z joined us during the temple event, during which we did as proposed for the neutral faction at the time, despite grumblings, and supported the underdog.
'Try harder, try again.'
Regardless, it was a throwaway comment to try and show what you do get out of remaining neutral. Which IS a sense of accomplishment, moral superiority to fanatics and numerous other things that are hard to quantify. That you take such great offence says more about you, than me. That's a quality of RL fanatics though.
Appropriately spooky for the time of year.
Re: Been neutral
Posted: Sat Oct 28, 2006 3:17 pm
by riveit
karmelit wrote:He tells Arjuna it is his duty to fight and he should not let his doubts get in the way. Thus morally superior can be taken as the opposite
Alas, like Arjuna, we do not remember the past thousands of lives.
Well, at least I don't.
Re: Been neutral
Posted: Sat Oct 28, 2006 3:19 pm
by grimjim
riveit wrote:Alas, like Arjuna, we do not remember the past thousands of lives.
Well, at least I don't.
There are many interpretations and the concept turns up in several different religions and philosophies.
What our interpretation is, is known to us
Re: Been neutral
Posted: Sat Oct 28, 2006 4:08 pm
by raven41
hehe... A merc morally superior...
I can't even think of a long response for such a preposterous claim...
Re: Been neutral
Posted: Sat Oct 28, 2006 4:10 pm
by grimjim
raven41 wrote:hehe... A merc morally superior...
I can't even think of a long response for such a preposterous claim...
I can think of a long explanation, but I think I gave a good one, in character, over in the other section.