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Re: Production: Fame & Autolauncher Titles
Posted: Mon Oct 16, 2006 7:47 pm
by grimjim
katriell wrote:I could say something...but instead I'm going to advise against
anyone saying anything in response to this flamebait.
*Huggles Jyudas, stuffing a sock in his mouth in the process. The sock is printed with the words "OFF TOPIC."*
*Ptooie*
Hey, you wouldn't let me have some nice neutral titles, I want shinies too damnit!
Hominist/Trytonist/Fence Sitter'd do nicely
Re: Production: Fame & Autolauncher Titles
Posted: Mon Oct 16, 2006 7:58 pm
by petej
katriell wrote:Too many variations of neutrals to cover with titles, perhaps.
"Homin" works nicely.
Indeed Homin would work nicely as long as the Cultists lost the ability to use it
Re: Production: Fame & Autolauncher Titles
Posted: Mon Oct 16, 2006 8:05 pm
by iphdrunk
Zoraï Brotherhood
When I read this, it reminded me of those IQ tests, "select the one that is different from the rest"
.
Other than gender issues (Sisterhood?), the rest of the titles seem to qualify the homin wearing them, but the Zorai one makes me think of the "a fraternal or trade organization" aspect first, before the actual homin -- Sounds more like a Guild name than a homin title.
With the rest, I can say: "I am a vassal" or "I am a citizen", "I am a patriot".. but "I am a brotherhood"? it's like implying it is missing the "member". A title should be "priest" not priesthood, "brother" not brotherhood, Neighbor, etc.
Other comments.... Well, in all honesty (but I appreciate the effort) I don't like them. Citizenship has been used in another context. Vassal is a bit toooo meaning servitude, and patriot... I can't imagine a Mel Gibson Frahar.... but hey, these are only my opinions, I can live with that
(what's wrong with "Zoraï, Matis, Tryker, Fyros citizen"?)
Re: Production: Fame & Autolauncher Titles
Posted: Mon Oct 16, 2006 8:28 pm
by calel
petej wrote:Indeed Homin would work nicely as long as the Cultists lost the ability to use it
They'd still be Homins. I personally see no need for titles for those non-affiliated with 'a power', because that's what they are: non-affiliated.
Now if some Prime Roots forager would accidently stumble upon Tryton and the Guild of Elias, or the Rangers of Atys would decide to take on deputies ... But it's down to Nevrax to create some sort of tangible ingame 'content' and 'presence' first for these 'minor powers' before they can start handing out titles and/or rewards for players who would choose to affiliate with these.
Hence why I'm curious after that Kitin Lair and the Ranger's role in it.
On the civilisation titles:
I really don't like the Zorai one; Brotherhood is a bit to gender specific to my taste. Besides I fail to see the link with the Zorai's dynastical caste system.
I wished it were Federal Citizen instead of Tryker citizen; it sounds so much better imo, but I guess it may be a tad to long in French, and that may be reason number one for the one we got propsed I bet.
Vassal sounds alright I guess; they're not nobility, a rank below Lord if I'm not mistaken, but still has a strong sense of servitude towards the monarchy.
Patriot ... just sounds weird in the context.
Re: Production: Fame & Autolauncher Titles
Posted: Mon Oct 16, 2006 8:40 pm
by grimjim
calel wrote:On the civilisation titles:
I really don't like the Zorai one; Brotherhood is a bit to gender specific to my taste. Besides I fail to see the link with the Zorai's dynastical caste system.
I wished it were Federal Citizen instead of Tryker citizen; it sounds so much better imo, but I guess it may be a tad to long in French, and that may be reason number one for the one we got propsed I bet.
Vassal sounds alright I guess; they're not nobility, a rank below Lord if I'm not mistaken, but still has a strong sense of servitude towards the monarchy.
Patriot ... just sounds weird in the context.
Citizen would be more appropriate for the Fyros really, since they're a republic, but that leaves the problem of what to call the Tryker.
Fyros Citizen
Tryker Federalist
Zorai Initiate
Matis serf*
Something more like that.
*Oh, alright, Vassal.
Re: Production: Fame & Autolauncher Titles
Posted: Mon Oct 16, 2006 8:41 pm
by ajsuk
I'd just like to say I'm sooooo please about this!
I've been missing the auto title(s) for ages and have really wanted some race/faction ones. I've have to go along with
katriell though, I much perfer Karavaneer/Kamist.
Re: Production: Fame & Autolauncher Titles
Posted: Mon Oct 16, 2006 9:30 pm
by petej
calel wrote:
petej wrote:Indeed Homin would work nicely as long as the Cultists lost the ability to use it
They'd still be Homins. I personally see no need for titles for those non-affiliated with 'a power', because that's what they are: non-affiliated.
With the new Titles you can (atlast) prove you are a paid up member of a Cult , you cant however prove youre not
Re: Production: Fame & Autolauncher Titles
Posted: Mon Oct 16, 2006 9:48 pm
by thurgond
grimjim wrote:Citizen would be more appropriate for the Fyros really, since they're a republic, but that leaves the problem of what to call the Tryker.
Last I checked, Fyros was ruled by an Emperor. It's another hereditary male-dominated kingdom like Matis. Nothing democratic about it.
Re: Production: Fame & Autolauncher Titles
Posted: Mon Oct 16, 2006 9:55 pm
by grimjim
thurgond wrote:Last I checked, Fyros was ruled by an Emperor. It's another hereditary male-dominated kingdom like Matis. Nothing democratic about it.
Its a republic like the Roman republic. Senators an Emporer - not a King - making it distinct from Matis. This ties in with some of the vaguely Greek-ish naming conventions of the Fyros. That's why the Citizen title is more appropriate there.
Re: Production: Fame & Autolauncher Titles
Posted: Mon Oct 16, 2006 10:24 pm
by katriell
Could call them all citizens, since they're all titles for citizenship, but that might be too...mundane?