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Re: Suggestion To Imply In The Game!

Posted: Thu Oct 12, 2006 3:47 pm
by mugendo
tigrus wrote:Oh im not thinking about war against the OP.
Im thinking declaring a war that ends when you end it manually.
Meaning it can last for months or hours.

Flamewars also become a part of it usually. (its still consensual btw).
http://soe.lithium.com/swg/board/messag ... ing&page=1
Here is one of the best ive had when it comes to guildwars :)
http://soe.lithium.com/swg/board/messag ... ing&page=1
Here is another.
http://soe.lithium.com/swg/board/messag ... ing&page=1

Btw, all those threads refer to a guildwar in swg. No need to read if not interested.

I liked those wars. So did they. And even though there was flaming, we all said we missed it when we ended it.

I want similar ones in ryzom. perhaps without the flames to that degree..
My earlier post refers to SWG when I participated in guild PvP....And I can inform you I saw no 'light hearted banter', no 'jolly well done chaps'..and certainly no desire for a repeat performance...this war lasted almost 18 months (RL time). It decimated the guild non combat population...which in turn effected their city economy....etc etc etc....
In summary, The PvP community won't play with me because I don't play nicely :(

Re: Suggestion To Imply In The Game!

Posted: Thu Oct 12, 2006 3:57 pm
by tigrus
mugendo wrote: The PvP community won't play with me because I don't play nicely :(
Thats how i like it ;)

Re: Suggestion To Imply In The Game!

Posted: Thu Oct 12, 2006 3:58 pm
by zanthar
mugendo wrote:My earlier post refers to SWG when I participated in guild PvP....And I can inform you I saw no 'light hearted banter', no 'jolly well done chaps'..and certainly no desire for a repeat performance...this war lasted almost 18 months (RL time). It decimated the guild non combat population...which in turn effected their city economy....etc etc etc....
In summary, The PvP community won't play with me because I don't play nicely :(
This is one reason I for one don't care for this kind of pvp, but that bieng said strictly GVG over Op's is fine by me cause the war is over fairly quickly! Another reaseon I don't care for this is TP campers Stacking DP so it's near impossible to play :( not to mention all the flaming that would go on because of the war bleeding over into other peoples play time. Like others have said this is an escape for me and I don't want to hear the flames as a result of a GVG battle. While I know your intentions are noble Tigrus, there are others out there that may not be.

Re: Suggestion To Imply In The Game!

Posted: Thu Oct 12, 2006 4:07 pm
by xeraphim
If we were all adult about it it could be great fun..
But unfortunatley I think it would get a bit flamey..

Also many guilds have a cross section of players .. some that like PVP and some that dont. thus alienating or upsetting half the guild when a decision to/not "guildwar" is made one way or the other.

Also would make digging a PITA big time :p

Suppose we could have guild war days.. where just for a day we could bash each other asuming everyones approval.. could be fun..
Jurys out for me on this one.

Re: Suggestion To Imply In The Game!

Posted: Thu Oct 12, 2006 4:19 pm
by iphdrunk
xeraphim wrote:If we were all adult about it it could be great fun..
But unfortunatley I think it would get a bit flamey..
Hehe we can always say that this previously announced and planned feature has been put on hold considering the player feedback, the current situation, the priority given to other PvE elements so players can impact the living world in game and all happy and exclaiming "Wow great news"

Re: Suggestion To Imply In The Game!

Posted: Thu Oct 12, 2006 4:26 pm
by tigrus
If you choose to accept the guildwar, you choose to accept all aspects of it.
nobody force anyone to accept.)

Re: Suggestion To Imply In The Game!

Posted: Thu Oct 12, 2006 4:40 pm
by talismar
Thanks but no thanks. I've seen the effects of it in SWG and I did not see it as beneficial, community building or even 'fun'.

Re: Suggestion To Imply In The Game!

Posted: Thu Oct 12, 2006 4:55 pm
by rothimar
There would need to be an option for players to refrain from the conflict for it to be worth it. Too many non-PvP people in Guilds with active PvP. There would have to be a "Conscientious Objector" option for the peaceful homins.

Re: Suggestion To Imply In The Game!

Posted: Thu Oct 12, 2006 4:56 pm
by mugendo
tigrus wrote:If you choose to accept the guildwar, you choose to accept all aspects of it.
nobody force anyone to accept.)
That is just the point, there will be PvP only guilds as a result of implementing such a feature.

Re: Suggestion To Imply In The Game!

Posted: Thu Oct 12, 2006 6:51 pm
by johntf
Another idea from other games we don't want, if guilds want to fight ie choice to accept they can all meet up in a gvg area, otherwise its fragrantly easy to exploit this system really, especially if it cost money as I personally could fund a 24/7 guild war consantly without ever needing to end it with my dig level and thats not that high, also even if they had to accept in the manner you want it would be very hard to code into the game the way thing are set up I guess.

I'd say there's bigger issues for ryzom to be dealt with before we can add new pvp geatures especially as they would take a lot of effort to balance and make fair.