kiexa wrote: I object to the words "taken by", as highlighted by Grimjim, "Sold to" "Given to" "Swapped" "Abandoned" should all be included. "Taken by" labels alot of guilds as aggresive, when in reality alot of the outpost owning guilds were/are excatly the opposite.
I thought 'taken by' was inoffensive, but apparently not to some. I deliberately left off information of conquests vs. handovers since I don't know on some transfers, a few others are open to intrepretation and dispute.
kiexa wrote:Including selected bias unsucessful attacks doesn`t make this a true chronicle of things.
I removed those two unsuccessful attacks but I hold it can be done in an unbiased fashion. Also, I would argue that having a chronology with some bias is better than having no chronology at all. Historians must comb every historical document for bias, but they do not just burn them all at the first hint of bias.
kiexa wrote:It is dressed up as a political view of OP`s with the inclusion at the start of kami/kara statements, then fails to describe or chronicle any of the politics of the transfers.
your list compiled in a different way (removing bias, offensive words and innacurate dates):
Yes, I agree a list does not describe the politics, which rather contradicts your first sentence. Your format is nice too. Although it removes the chronology which is sort of the whole point. I stand by my dates. Most are known within a day or two and specified within a 36 hour Atysian month. One or two transfers I only know the date within a week or so. The correspondance between RL and Atysian dates was borrowed from Blaah's calendar which seems to be quite accurate to me, certainly on a coarse scale of rl days. Look here for the sync times I used:
http://atys.pri.ee/?page=sync
P.S. Two questions, you list Eyeing Ewe Up and Elementals of Atys as Kamist. Was that just a guess? Who are your sources for that information?
P.P.S. You missed Cara Via's stay in Lost Valley Stronghold.
