I came back, I tried, I saw and I cancelled

[grimjim]

Hope what they see is soon and relaise what most have their best time then we stand to gether fighting for a goal, and what is PvE.

Is this true any longer though?
So many people left from those groups during Temples and Outposts, we've had a trickle back but how much of that original demographic are left now?

Of course, R2 _should_ bring a lot of them back.

[kazaam31]

man if the game is that ***edited for profanity by Soulsnatcher***... keep it for yourself and dont complain on forums.... there are still enough "old" players ( me included ) which are still into ryzom... even if there are things i dislike..i keep it for myself or ingame.. always these forum whiners.. better think about the new players and what they think about the game when they read your post

[grimjim]

man if the game is that ***edited for profanity by Soulsnatcher***... keep it for yourself and dont complain on forums.... there are still enough "old" players ( me included ) which are still into ryzom... even if there are things i dislike..i keep it for myself or ingame.. always these forum whiners.. better think about the new players and what they think about the game when they read your post

That there are old players who love the game still but want to see it improve and be all it could be?

What's so bad about that?

[forever]

Sorry you don't like what you see but this game was always going to have PvP. The problem is the game was released early and the PvP was left out till they had time to add it. So now the game has a small amout of PvP and it is more or less your choice whether or not you take part in it.
Now the Devs are working hard on non PvP content, lets hope it make a few more Homins happy.

[xenofur]

Neutral players should be able to go everywhere

you can still GO anywhere. quite honestly, you're confusing the terms "anti-pvp" and "faction-neutral".

@neva: good point. *is tempted to look for the old interview with david where he presents his views on mmorpgs, pvp and pve*

[aardnebb]

So now the game has a small amout of PvP and it is more or less your choice whether or not you take part in it.

I dont think that Spires will be "small" for all those factioned players it will affect, PvP enjoying or not.

And I am annoyed by the lack of non-PvP alternatives to OPs.

[rushin]

to minimise the risk of being considered a troll from my last post:

1. Nothings changed much, very disapointing. Outposts, I cant believe that they took so long to develop after seeing one today.

hmm i'd say quite a lot has changed, but thats a subjective opinion of course from both of us. You saw an outpost. did you attend a big fight, get involved in the heady politics of forming alliances and friendships to defend it, spend some time with the rewards, make some of the new weapons?

2. Ryzom was PvE not PvP, taking away game content to make ppl choose a side when some of us werent interested in that sort of thing is just plain stupid.
You seriously need to re-think there.

Ryzom was always going to be PvP, it says as much on the box, the early events set up the conflict ingame. Either way it's both, you dont log in and get forced to PvP, you have a choice. All the PvE content is still here. There is no requirement to join a faction.

Anyway, nice graphics, friendly ppl (when u actually see some) and it might have been a good game if it had been handled properly from the start.

I see plenty of people, i've never had an issue with not having people to play with, as you should know Ryzom is a niche game, its not WoW - it would be awful if that many people played. And it is a good game, there are plenty of us that enjoy it every time we log on thanks very much.

And i stand by the fact that its a completly pointless post you made. you just whinge about a few things and say i'm leaving again. what good does it do anyone exactly, maybe you wanted to make yourself feel better by hoping others would chime in and agree how idiotic we all are playing a crap game.

pfft.

[greymar]

man if the game is that ****... keep it for yourself and dont complain on forums.... there are still enough "old" players ( me included ) which are still into ryzom... even if there are things i dislike..i keep it for myself or ingame.. always these forum whiners.. better think about the new players and what they think about the game when they read your post

Yea.. and this is the kind of post that will make new players think there's a welcoming, mature, and friendly community....

Oookay.

[katriell]

Neutral players should be able to go everywhere, I shouldnt have to pick a side in a game thats lore gets changed at the whim of the developers to enjoy the game content I am paying for.

1. As a neutral, I can safely say there is nothing game-shatteringly wrong with our selection of teleports. The trek to 250 zones is in most cases not that hard (Thesos Karavan for Scorched Corridor, Maiden Grove Karavan for Void, Heretic's Hovel Karavan for Lagoons of Loria, Knoll of Dissent Kami for Grove of Confusion), and there are teleports near several Prime Root regions (Nexus pacts for Lands of Umbra, Knot of Dementia Kami and Dyron Karavan for Underspring, Knoll of Dissent Karavan for Abyss of Ichor, etc.). They're livable, but I doubt you'll see that in your quest to criticize somewhat-inconvenient changes.

2. The lore reflects the knowledge of homins:

In 2525, Atys resembles an amnesic planet.
The homins know very little about their past let alone the history of their planet.
This section is a reflection of what they know. It brings together knowledge previously discovered and will be completed with every step closer to the verity.

By the way, thank you for your (albeit brief) resubscription. One more $15 for Nevrax toward the support of a game I love.

That there are old players who love the game still but want to see it improve and be all it could be?

If one really cared, one would give their money to the game continuously because that is what would enable Nevrax to improve it more. By cancelling one's subscription, one is saying they would rather see the game die.

[cloudy97]

I must admit I'm sick of the whining, Ryzom is still a game where people run a 4 minutes detour just to rez you. Where you can ask questions without being called a noob, where people team up with new players and take you on a 2 hour trek - just to be nice.

There was people who loudly declared PVP will ruin the game, but that haven't happened, have it? And as I listen to the Universe-channel, more people are coming here for the very same reasons we love it.