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Re: The Psykopla Knoll Trading is opening again.

Posted: Tue Jul 11, 2006 1:44 am
by rellis
Hmmm i am a bit dissapointed with this news, Inside the kami lands is the Q200 OP, Southend Dunes farm. This OP is ran by a neutral guild eleytheria and there are no restrictions on trading with Karavan.None are enforced by any 'Kami Law', albeit some would like to insist upon it.

In my Opinion the Kings of Oblivion decision not to attack after their admitted error was influenced by the fact that before all of this, your Op was Open to all homins and was seen as neutral in a sense. Not the case anymore?

Honestly the Q50 OP is not going to swing the tide in the conflict between the factions, Instead it will ease the lives of the new refugees into our lands.

Please speak to those that insist on this law and try to do your best to serve all of Homins as you did before.

Think upon my thoughts.

Re: The Psykopla Knoll Trading is opening again.

Posted: Tue Jul 11, 2006 2:06 am
by d29565
Windra, I thought you an honorable homin. I did not expect lies from you, as you so told me. I convinced KoO to leave the Outpost to you, because I was told that this outpost would serve basically to do the same thing we wished to do, helping young kami as well. Your lies and deceit are truly what I have come to expect from many of your fellow karavan. Do not that Kings of Oblivion again, because we let you keep the outpost, decieved.

Re: The Psykopla Knoll Trading is opening again.

Posted: Tue Jul 11, 2006 2:20 am
by ajsuk
Well I dont really know what to say about all this now, shame so many wires have gotten crossed, but anyway... If you think for a minute your going to be pulling resources from the heart of Matis to feed the Kami scum you've got another thing coming. :p

btw, nice sig.

Re: The Psykopla Knoll Trading is opening again.

Posted: Tue Jul 11, 2006 2:26 am
by totnkopf
d29565 wrote:Windra, I thought you an honorable homin. I did not expect lies from you, as you so told me. I convinced KoO to leave the Outpost to you, because I was told that this outpost would serve basically to do the same thing we wished to do, helping young kami as well. Your lies and deceit are truly what I have come to expect from many of your fellow karavan. Do not that Kings of Oblivion again, because we let you keep the outpost, decieved.
aye, does seem a bit of a reversal.

A: "why are you attacking my OP? I give to all homins, regardless of their religion or race"

B: "you do? My mistake, thought you were someone else. By all means, I'll leave you be"

A: "thanks... oh, and by the way, I don't trade with your kind"

Re: The Psykopla Knoll Trading is opening again.

Posted: Tue Jul 11, 2006 2:32 am
by sehracii
In Windra's defense, the free trade policy was announced before the outpost was declared on. It was obviously his intent to stand by it as much possible.

(The original post also stated since he wasn't guild leader such a policy was not guaranteed to continue indefinitely )

Re: The Psykopla Knoll Trading is opening again.

Posted: Tue Jul 11, 2006 2:32 am
by d29565
ajsuk wrote: btw, nice sig.
:: Offtopic :: Which part?

Re: The Psykopla Knoll Trading is opening again.

Posted: Tue Jul 11, 2006 2:38 am
by rellis
ajsuk wrote:Well I dont really know what to say about all this now, shame so many wires have gotten crossed, but anyway... If you think for a minute your going to be pulling resources from the heart of Matis to feed the Kami scum you've got another thing coming. :p

btw, nice sig.
This is a Q50 OP, those who will use its resources are neither kami or kara at the time. has your Zeal turned you against the youth and future of our kind? we are all homins afterall!

This Op was for all, this is why so many from Kami , Kara and Neutral backrounds rallied around Windra. She herself was so surprised so many came to help, sending tells and trying to convince KoO not to attack. When they were pretty close to taking it.

Whoever makes these 'laws' or decides them,i call for you to make an exception, do not this Disgrace this honourable and proud homin. Leave her to provide for all who are young and vulnerable, as she did before and what seemed to be her passion.

Remember the Cats and Mats will be used, the flowers consumed, but the honour of giving to your 'enemies' young will be remembered.

Re: The Psykopla Knoll Trading is opening again.

Posted: Tue Jul 11, 2006 3:24 am
by varelse
Windra never declared on the Gu-Qin outpost held by Kings of Oblivion. Guardians of Jena did that, and several Karavan guilds, including my own, backed them.

Windra didn't take part in the battle that took Gu-Qin from the Kings of Oblivion. In fact, not a single member of Sacred Circle of Guardians was present at the Gu-Qin outpost battle, nor were they even aware of it, and Windra herself had sworn never again to fight against other homins in the name of the gods or their minions.

On July 5th, Windra did publically declare Psykopla Knoll trading post to be open for free trade to all, but did also mention that her guild leader and her guildmates were unaware of this new development, and might take exception to it. Apparently they did take exception to her idea, and since she's not the guild leader, she doesn't have the power to continue forward with this free trade program, even though I am sure that she wishes to do so with all her heart.

And now, she's being called a liar and accused of deceiving the community.

When I think of Windra and all she's been put through here, the same phrase is passing though my mind over and over...

"No good deed goes unpunished"

Sorry, Windra :(

Re: The Psykopla Knoll Trading is opening again.

Posted: Tue Jul 11, 2006 3:57 am
by raven41
As for this... I don't care what ya do with the mats/cats ... A shame it can't be shared with Kami too... But it still stands I will defend this OP for aslong as ScoG holds it.


~Atys' newest Kaminuetral~

Re: The Psykopla Knoll Trading is opening again.

Posted: Tue Jul 11, 2006 5:00 am
by katriell
It's a shame when political constraints obstruct a good and kind thing.