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Re: Damned !

Posted: Thu Jun 01, 2006 4:13 pm
by rundll32
haha thats pretty funny :)

Re: Damned !

Posted: Thu Jun 01, 2006 4:43 pm
by maccer16
well you dont get nowhere without asking but white next time ask in guild first lol

Re: Damned !

Posted: Thu Jun 01, 2006 5:16 pm
by cygnus
As with any "uber" recipe the art is in experimentation. To make them you need the mats, not much use having the recipe if you cant get the mats. Build up a stock of mats for which ever craft skill you want, from basic to supreme. Hoard boss and named mob mats until you have a good selection and then start mixing and blending.

Learn how certain mats nerf, how others boost, find the "magical" mats that on their own look not so hot, but when blended with other mats produce results you never would have expected. You dont need a high skill lvl to do this either, the pre craft window will show you are on the right track.

Screenshot everything that looks good for reference as you will forget, you will lose bits of paper (speaking from experience).

To truly become a great crafter you have to make some effort and put the time in. imo there is no other way and for sure it is the most satisfying way :)

Re: Damned !

Posted: Thu Jun 01, 2006 7:20 pm
by uhuhu
Here you go Lewy/Pashaas/Whitefire.. all people using account lol
best recipee ever found for HA:
supreme kachine wood
supreme moon resin
supreme koorin oil
supreme dante sap

Re: Damned !

Posted: Thu Jun 01, 2006 7:25 pm
by iphdrunk
Hello all,

Just chiming in to mention that I understand whitefire asking for recipees. Some of you have been a bit harsh on him, when asking for recipees is pretty common, not as much in forums but in game. I am asked for them quite often, sometimes because the player simply doesn't know it, wonders if it is possible or simply he forgot. Moreover, as ciri stated, he hasn't been the first one.


It is up to the crafter to a) have fun or not looking for recipees b) ask or not for recipees and c) answer or not to someone else asking. I've done quite a bit of a) a lot actually, and gathered a few recipees when I found it entertaining, from having dozens of pages, numerical and statistical analysis, linear regressions, trying to map white bars to numerical values and finding "modulo 100" operations.. and lots of things that other players can find even pretty boring, like solving optimization problems to know empirically the "best for the buck" overcraft ratio....

Let me add I don't think we can be called "master crafters" since other than that, it reduces to combinatory and testing, there is no skill, provided you have the mats around and time to click on boxes and write down notes. If a crafter, for whatever reason, cannot have access to some mat diversity (solo guild with no boss hunting, RP reasons to use only mats of his own ecosystem, etc) it is pretty hard to do combinations, or simply boring, or not willing to take the time to.

Wrt b) again, up to the player if he asks, he may get it, if he doesn't he won't. No biggie. Same as a player requesting for free gear. It is a request, nothing else, asked for the sake of one's benefit, as a lot of requests are...some may not ask out of pride or consider it a spoil. Others because they are shy... and c) same, if you ask and get an answer, more power for you :) but as I understand players asking, I understand others not answering. It is simply a matter of "spend the same amount of time as others did" and it's part of a crafters wealth and knowledge...and giving away recipees could be seen as spoonfeeding

Nothing to see here, move along :P



PS: The new web engine does not really like Firefox, specially for typing or editing posts, it all appears as a single paragraph...

Re: Damned !

Posted: Thu Jun 01, 2006 7:30 pm
by maccer16
audrey if u gonna say people using my account plzz have the facts stay at french server

Re: Damned !

Posted: Thu Jun 01, 2006 7:31 pm
by uhuhu
maccer16 wrote:audrey if u gonna say people using my account plzz have the facts stay at french server
dun get mad mate :D
i'm just joking around

Re: Damned !

Posted: Thu Jun 01, 2006 8:42 pm
by kazaam31
erm i dun understand why this thread isnt deleted yet or moved...and whats the reason to blame a m8 of my guild which i take personally btw, who was just asking 4 help. So next time u want to say somethin about my guild becarefully...and never ask KoO 4 any help coz we will blame u the same way and more..

Re: Damned !

Posted: Fri Jun 02, 2006 3:03 pm
by maccer16
white only asked because he did not know the recipe ryzom is a freindly place and people alway`s said if you need help with somethink just ask so he has and look what happens well all i can say all the other people that has asked for recipe`s in the past should look at this post and say why are people taking like this now and close this now i dont care if i did not start it i want it closed plzzz

Re: Damned !

Posted: Fri Jun 02, 2006 5:31 pm
by komissar
LOL stop posting here and it will become history soon enuf :P