And the rules change

[kayak]

saw that we were back to baseless (and incorrect) assumptions about other players *sigh*

yeah sorry
i just find the act of ganking a little imatture. your right i dont' know how old the people behind the avatars are but in my expiriance of bullies they can be a bit imature. but as i said i know the risks and i'll still dig umbra and i'll still rez ppl who need my help.. maybe one day they will gain matutity not to gank.. if they had asked for me to move on then i probably would.

[3421514]

Also kind of amused how you say "it's one thing" for them to take it all for themselves, but imply that its sooooo much worse if they're doing it to help their allies

with the current state of things its this alliance that seems to be the bullies of atys. I was mearly stating that if theres even other karavans feeling they are being bullied by this alliance then something should be done to put them in their place. and yes right now i think theres a difference of a large guild trying to keep a supernode to themselves and this huge alliance trying to keep all the best resopurces to its self.
I'm sure sometime in the near future things will balance back out and this will all be nothing more than a bad memory of the greed that nearly ruined the game..I have faith in my fellow homins

[naratuul]

Well to clarfiy things from the prospective of the OV members that were there I'll just make these observations:

1. The supernode is in fact a GvG area. OV as a general rule doesn't bother diggers unless they are at the supernode and not currently aligned allies. Sometimes we don't nuke Kami and nuetrals, sometimes we do.

2. This action was not in the name of the KA. Nor was it officially a OV guild action. The action was within game mechanics and didnt violate any standing OV orders.

3. All parties that were nuked were warned prior to the sups popping. Some left before being nuked. So anyone that thinks that this was a ganking can think again.

4. Keiko was nuked because even though she is Kara she has a history of healing tagged kami that are being attacked while wearing her Kara tag. I understand that the Kami were her friends but she should have just declared Kami or not wore her tag in those instances.

5. Lath was nuked because he wasn't OV and some muddled indirect actions he did in the past in support of Kami PvP.

Audrey wasn't nuked at all.

It wasn't personal, it's a game folks. The supernodes are meant to be contested.

We chose to nuke because it was a fun thing to do . If a large band of people would have shown up we would have still nuked and fought. If we lost we would have just gone and dug the sups someplace else like lath did ultimately. After the supernode emptied, we stayed around and did not race off to drain the other sup deposits. We did what we came for and had our fun, It's not like we were after every bit of Sup amber that poppped with this reset.


A personal note here for lath and anyothers that were nuked:

I have dug in gvg zones right beside many red dots that are not KA folks, I have even teamed with non KA red dots to ease the boredom and have a bit of fun converstion. If you are dead at GoC or need help, just holler in region I'll do my best to get to ya. The action at the supernode was just business, nothing personal on my part. If you decide to nuke me while I'm digging in a gvg zone, I wont complain because thats the nature of GvG zones. But unless you are at the supernode at season change, it's not likely that I will nuke you just because you are in a gvg zone.


Have fun, be safe, and remember it's a game. A little pvp action now and then keeps folks on their toes and makes the game more interesting.

[vguerin]

If that's what we get for helping both sides, then I wonder, why should we? Only one side has ever given me grief for helping both, only one side has ever nuked me without provocation, only one side has ever cussed me out. Sadly, it's the side I helped the most.

Things are going to change.

A true Karavaneer is compelled to take action when others are aiding the enemy. I have had the priveledge of fighting side by side with you on many occasions and know you to be a ferocious warrior. If you are going to base your decision to side with the enemy I fear those grand days are over. We all have our place serving Jena and though I respect your less religious stance, I cannot let personal feelings interfere with my devotion to Jena.

Embrace the Karavan Lathaniel, once you have felt the light you will see why rendering aid to a fallen homin is not always in your best interest.

We chose to nuke because it was a fun thing to do .

[OOC] You had some valid issues until this one... [/OOC]

[naratuul]

A true Karavaneer is compelled to take action when others are aiding the enemy. I have had the priveledge of fighting side by side with you on many occasions and know you to be a ferocious warrior. If you are going to base your decision to side with the enemy I fear those grand days are over. We all have our place serving Jena and though I respect your less religious stance, I cannot let personal feelings interfere with my devotion to Jena.

Embrace the Karavan Lathaniel, once you have felt the light you will see why rendering aid to a fallen homin is not always in your best interest.

[OOC] You had some valid issues until this one... [/OOC]

And enjoying the game isn't valid?

[carrie]

4. Keiko was nuked because even though she is Kara she has a history of healing tagged kami that are being attacked while wearing her Kara tag. I understand that the Kami were her friends but she should have just declared Kami or not wore her tag in those instances.

5. Lath was nuked because he wasn't OV and some muddled indirect actions he did in the past in support of Kami PvP.

And you chose to nuke me because I heal my OWN guildmates. Hm..and interestingly enough many of your's.

[carrie]

Embrace the Karavan Lathaniel, once you have felt the light you will see why rendering aid to a fallen homin is not always in your best interest.

As a result of yesterday evening Lath and I will embrace the Karavan about the same time Satan starts iceskating.

[naratuul]

And you chose to nuke me because I heal my OWN guildmates. Hm..and interestingly enough many of your's.

Thats what GvG zones are all about though. In non GvG zones I heal people indiscriminately too.
edit:and to point out in the gvg zone if you are red to us
for those not into the GvG thing

[lathan]

Sorry. Maybe I should have been more clear. Apparently some people didn't understand. This was a declaration of intent. I am going to pvp, on the side of the people who have proved that the deserve my help. It wasn't this one incident that caused this, but it was the final straw.

One of the main reasons I have not pvp'd up until this point is I won't pvp with someone then be all "buddy-buddy" with them the next time I see them. I will not be nice. But the kara whined on and on (and on and on) that we should pick a side. Gratz, now I have.

[naratuul]

Sorry. Maybe I should have been more clear. Apparently some people didn't understand. This was a declaration of intent. I am going to pvp, on the side of the people who have proved that the deserve my help. It wasn't this one incident that caused this, but it was the final straw.

One of the main reasons I have not pvp'd up until this point is I won't pvp with someone then be all "buddy-buddy" with them the next time I see them. I will not be nice. But the kara whined on and on (and on and on) that we should pick a side. Gratz, now I have.

Awesome Lath thanks for clearing that up.
It just seemed that the original content was a whine, now that you have cleared it up its time to move on. Happy Easter!