Ryzom

eek that could end up being a big list, if i'm about i'll pop along

Ciri, chill out. Zysha isn't leaving and those she mentioned who are haven't made a fuss about it, they've made a will.

Sounds to me as though the hominist faction loses a few people but maybe wins a piece of unity with this move. Tough trade

PvP is what YOU make of it. - Nothing more nothing less!!!
Goodbye to all those who aren´t able to see this.
Hope you find greener pastures somewhere else.


Acridiel of Leanon.

Spriteh - well done on time and place info! It appears the human brain can survive digging 90k mats after all - I've had some personal doubts about that. Btw, I'm in the market for jewel mats too if you'd like dig some more

Audrey - Jenna informs me she is appalled u excluded Her Greatness from the All who are invited, and suggests you attend to right this wrong!

Jelathnia - I'm including you are I read ur post about giving away crystals from ur op on another thread .

Lexius, aka Minstel of the Void and Torturer of Yubos - unclear if you are want to be included on the distribution list.

Look forward to seeing you all tomorrow

Greetings Zysha

with a sad heart i see another great group of people leave :_(...
farewell to them and good luck, may Ma-Duk guide them whereever they go

but if it´s there last will and wish that you get the OP for yourself and others like you....

then i´ll be there and help u get that OP(and get it to a good and high DefLvl )

best wishes
Lyrthis

PS:no need to include me in your little list... i can get some cats from my Guild
but you should ask Chronosfera, our fearless leader, if he wants to trade mats and cats so that you have a greater diversity to offer

I never like to hear of more homins leaving...always sad. However i think what youre doing is majorly hypocritical...

"I plan to hold the op on behalf of the Have Nots like myself who have been excluded from new content on basis of being anti-pvp"

Youre getting involved in the part of the game you claim to be excluded from. The fact of that matter is youre not excluded - as you have shown - you can take part as much or as little as you would like to. there's still plenty else to do on atys - if you dont want to pvp you do not have to. its like me saying well ive been excluded from the whole digging/crafting part of the game cause i dont like digging. i dont really see your logic at all.

but anyway sorry to see you go guys - take care where ever you end up

rundll32 wrote: Youre getting involved in the part of the game you claim to be excluded from. The fact of that matter is youre not excluded - as you have shown - you can take part as much or as little as you would like to. there's still plenty else to do on atys - if you dont want to pvp you do not have to. its like me saying well ive been excluded from the whole digging/crafting part of the game cause i dont like digging. i dont really see your logic at all.

I have to disagree... The issue is that Outpost rewards such as crystals and OP Mats and Consumables are _ONLY_ available from outposts. If you wish to benefit from these then you _have_ to do PvP, even though these items are not PvP related directly.

Just cos you don't like PvP doesn't mean you dont wanna play around with those new crafting plans, get extra XP from hunting or whatever...

Let's not let this thread turn into another one about the new content and how it is or is not all pvp-related and how that does or does not exclude people from these things such as xp crystals and outpost mats. Both stances on that issue have been well documented on these forums, and, frankly, that horse was flogged to death a long time ago.

This thread is an invitation for those that like the idea of an outpost for those who don't have outposts to come along and assist in the creation of such a thing. So, if you like the idea and are able, come along to help. If you don't like the idea, don't come along to help. It should be that simple.

So, to that end: I'll be there

aardnebb wrote:... If you wish to benefit from these then you _have_ to do PvP...

No you don't, you only have to 'do' PvP to Own/defend an OP, you can happily trade for OP goods with any OP owner without ever having been to an OP battle. Ownership of an OP just gurantees a supply. So in a sence the guranteed reward of OP material+ crystals's cost is the Consent of PvP.

There are also those the would love to own an OP for the PvP aspect alone, and those that would love to have regular battles.

As a have-not and effectivly solo, i do not expect to own a OP realistically (Though i tried). I trade for the crystals and material, often getting them for free, partly as crafting payment partly for efforts assiting allies. A have not is only as have not as they wish to be, seldom are OP items handed to me on a plate.

hmmm bit of a ramble

Bah to Lath posting too . My caveat is that taking an OP is for all intent and purpose PvP. Aquiring OP materials if that is your desire does not require owning an OP.

Acridiel wrote:PvP is what YOU make of it. - Nothing more nothing less!!!
Goodbye to all those who aren´t able to see this.
Hope you find greener pastures somewhere else.

No because it also gives other ppl the chance to interact with you in the way they see fit YOU cant control that , not saying thats a bad thing in itself but it can be and more to the point it isnt only how YOU make it

rundll32 wrote:I never like to hear of more homins leaving...always sad. However i think what youre doing is majorly hypocritical...

"I plan to hold the op on behalf of the Have Nots like myself who have been excluded from new content on basis of being anti-pvp"

Youre getting involved in the part of the game you claim to be excluded from. The fact of that matter is youre not excluded - as you have shown - you can take part as much or as little as you would like to. there's still plenty else to do on atys - if you dont want to pvp you do not have to. its like me saying well ive been excluded from the whole digging/crafting part of the game cause i dont like digging. i dont really see your logic at all.

but anyway sorry to see you go guys - take care where ever you end up

Being excluded from Digging because you dont like Digging
isnt the same as
Being excluded from Outposts because you dont like PvP

In your example both sides are the same , you dont like one thing so youre excluded from that one thing , in mine theyre different you dont like one thing you are excluded from that AND something else , the only way to obtain it is like has been done here -youre given it

Bah youre both making me sound like Jyudas , personaly im not Anti-PvP but I do understand that point of view and I hope Nevrax will eventualy bring in other means/forms of ownership/Outposts (and make the current PvP ones GvG instead of FvF -but thats going further off topic so il shut up)

/Off Topic

Thanks Zysha im Honoured to make it onto your list /bow

I dont use Crystals/OP products myself though but I will come along to the take-over , RL and memory permitting (gimme a /tell reminder if you see me on)

Edit -Damn mustve had this thread open along time before posting , last post was rundll32's