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Re: Problems Stemming From The Last Event

Posted: Sun Dec 18, 2005 6:36 pm
by kaetemi
jarko wrote:readable to me you should let your eyes be checked
Didn't say it's unreadable, it's just not the most readable color combination...

If you're trying to catch attention, go for yellow or white...
But PLEASE don't use unneeded colored text...

Re: Problems Stemming From The Last Event

Posted: Sun Dec 18, 2005 7:10 pm
by akicks
jarko wrote:readable to me you should let your eyes be checked
Some people are colour blind. Red Green colour blindness is the most common form. That means that people can't distinguish between red and green.

Just because you can read something fine doesn't mean everyone can.

Re: Problems Stemming From The Last Event

Posted: Sun Dec 18, 2005 8:29 pm
by michielb
You reap what you sow...

Re: Problems Stemming From The Last Event

Posted: Mon Dec 19, 2005 4:28 am
by iwojimmy
Some people found the basic premise of the event disturbing, that Nevrax was encouraging attacks on players who were not prepared to defend themselves. This kind of behaviour may be rationalised as legitimate in warfare, but that does not it make it morally any better.
The Knights were always at the forefront of the aggressive players, and it was a challenge to fight them. This will be remembered, as will their dedication to the Kamist cause and lack of concern for opposing homins

In short, we know what side they are on, and how they play, and dont trust them much.

Personally, i would still resurrect them (PvP/neutrality allowing) in normal gameplay, but doubt that I would team with them.

Re: Problems Stemming From The Last Event

Posted: Mon Dec 19, 2005 9:32 am
by philu
blaah wrote:whats wrong with peace ? in war, everybody loses

nevrax puts game mechanics in place and gives a few pointers and goal (missions).
it's the PLAYERS who decide how they play it out.
we can only blame nevrax about game mechanics not for player decisions.

"You nuked me in old lands, you not my friend anymore" is totally understandible. even now, when old lands are gone.

ever heard of consequences ?

"it's just a game" you say ? why you so upset then
Couldn't agree more.

Just one question, why has this been dragged up now? Worried about what's going to happen after the patch? :(

Re: Problems Stemming From The Last Event

Posted: Mon Dec 19, 2005 9:47 am
by sk8rss
Alright people, it popped up out of nowhere cause WK's been gone for a while (pay attention to more than what you disagree with please). And whether it's out of place now or not (which I think not because like kostika said, on going story) it happened. The event did go a little too peacefully for Liquado's liking, but that's what made the event what it was, the option. It did fuel Liquado's hatred for Jena and her Followers, and had Liquado had it his way (I.E. his guildies not saying "be nice, let the diggers be" ;) ) there would have been NO peaceful digging for Followers of Jena. Anyhoo, good points WK, good points all around I suppose.

/ooc
Play the game the way you want to play it, but please don't get your caster pants in a bunch because everyone else does to.
I referred to Liquado in the third person for this post because people appear to have a hard time wrapping their minds around the difference between immature ganker/some other way to complain about me, and RP extremism.

Re: Problems Stemming From The Last Event

Posted: Mon Dec 19, 2005 10:43 am
by blaah
sk8rss wrote:/ooc
Play the game the way you want to play it,...
plz, next time you PvP someone , then make sure he/she wants to PvP
:-)

you cant upheld that "play the way you want to" in MMO. if you only think about your own fun, then others who dont enjoy your playstyle, will get hurt.

Re: Problems Stemming From The Last Event

Posted: Mon Dec 19, 2005 10:47 am
by sk8rss
blaah wrote:plz, next time you PvP someone , then make sure he/she wants to PvP
:-)

you cant upheld that "play the way you want to" in MMO. if you only think about your own fun, then others who dont enjoy your playstyle, will get hurt.
/ooc
and while that's a shame, if I don't play the way I want to then I can't justify paying my sub. I know it may sound selfish, but I'm not paying $15/mon. so that I can be another NPC for everyone ELSE to enjoy

Re: Problems Stemming From The Last Event

Posted: Mon Dec 19, 2005 10:56 am
by blaah
sk8rss wrote:/ooc
and while that's a shame, if I don't play the way I want to then I can't justify paying my sub. I know it may sound selfish, but I'm not paying $15/mon. so that I can be another NPC for everyone ELSE to enjoy
it goes other way around too, you may be playing alone if you dont respect others.
"playing alone" is far fetched, but nevrax is in trouble, so driving ppl away (in both "sides") is not good.

peace was one of those compromises.

Re: Problems Stemming From The Last Event

Posted: Mon Dec 19, 2005 11:13 am
by sk8rss
blaah wrote:it goes other way around too, you may be playing alone if you dont respect others.
"playing alone" is far fetched, but nevrax is in trouble, so driving ppl away (in both "sides") is not good.

peace was one of those compromises.
By no means do I want to disrespect anyone, but it appears everyone is crying out for everyone else to respect them, without realizing that it does in fact go both ways. Again, not to seem selfish, but if I don't want peace, I fail to see the compromise. In a game who's story entails a faction based war, fueled by FvF PvP elements (intentions were there in the beginning) you're going to turn people away who don't want to hear about how no one is catering the people who want this game to be something it's not. If you ask me nevrax's trouble isn't keeping the players ryzom isn't for, it's gaining players that this game would actually appeal to. It just appears it's taking too long for everyone to realize whether or not this game is for them, be it throwing in the towel because it's not for you, or people who would like the game not even knowing it exists.

Everyone knows Nevrax is a baby company that is spreading itself very thin to try to keep everyone happy and they're taking advantage. Not to say it's where I want to see Ryzom go, but Blizzard knew exactly what THEY wanted out of WoW, that's why many of you will want to flame me just for bringing WoW up, but others will leave this game to play it. It's the way it is, no ifs, ands, or buts about it, it's the way Blizzard wanted the game to be and so far it's turned out successful, because it's made a far clearer definition of who WoW is for, and who it's not.