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Re: Please Explain This
Posted: Thu Nov 10, 2005 2:24 pm
by carrie
Thank you for responding to my questions.
Re: Please Explain This
Posted: Thu Nov 10, 2005 2:24 pm
by ajsuk
Why have I woken up to this twaddle might I ask?
While I have very much respect for you and your work, X, as you know..
What the hell is
this?
How about:
Why?
Quote(s) of the posts in question?
How long the bannings for?
I mean what did that email really tell him.. sweet.. yeah..
This is me asking why your policy doesn't include this pretty vital info!?!?
You can suggest this to the management..
What else.. I can't believe I'm having to explain my actions on every post I make for fear of getting the boot.. Good morning to me!
Re: Please Explain This
Posted: Thu Nov 10, 2005 2:32 pm
by Xavier Antoviaque
ajsuk wrote:While I have very much respect for you and your work, X, as you know..
What the hell is
this?
How about:
Why?
Quote(s) of the posts in question?
How long the bannings for?
True, it wasn't detailed enough - my apologies for this, it was made too quickly. I will definitely include more details in future emails, I (wrongly) assumed it was obvious.
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Xavier.
Re: Please Explain This
Posted: Thu Nov 10, 2005 2:33 pm
by aylwyne
Well, it's good to see at least we're getting some clarification on the problems.
In the spirit of this, I'd appreciate if Xavier could explain why grimjim's ban was publicly announced on the forums. I thought this was expressly against Nevrax's policy about divulging information about disciplinary actions they take.
NOTE: this does not apply to those who have communicated information about their own suspensions to the community. It's their choice to waive their privacy.
Re: Please Explain This
Posted: Thu Nov 10, 2005 2:35 pm
by aaack
Xavier Antoviaque wrote:The first part:
Using the "A more cynical person than I might say..." trick is just a way to saying something without taking the responsability of what is said. And what is said is "GrimJim was only banned at his first post because certain people at Nevrax had had enough of having their mistakes and inconsistencies pointed out by him.". That's ranting and personal attack.
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Xavier.
No, it sounds to me like the author is just saying that he's not of that opinion, however were he a more cynical person he might believe that. In other words he isn't far from believing that that might be the case, but still has some faith left in the forum moderation.
Not a "trick", as you have named it, but simply a much less harsh statement than it would have been, had it been said that that was his opinion. I wonder now if Lathaniel is a more cynical person with regard to Nevrax then he was before?
Re: Please Explain This
Posted: Thu Nov 10, 2005 2:35 pm
by ajsuk
Xavier Antoviaque wrote:True, it wasn't detailed enough - my apologies for this, it was made too quickly. I will definitely include more details in future emails, I (wrongly) assumed it was obvious.
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Xavier.
Tyvm Mr X.
Re: Please Explain This
Posted: Thu Nov 10, 2005 2:40 pm
by Xavier Antoviaque
aylwyne wrote:In the spirit of this, I'd appreciate if Xavier could explain why grimjim's ban was publicly announced on the forums. I thought this was expressly against Nevrax's policy about divulging information about disciplinary actions they take.
I didn't want to look like I was doing it in the backstage, especially since it was precisely on the topic discussing the issue. But you're also right, this should stay private, and I won't announce such things on the boards anymore.
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Xavier.
Re: Please Explain This
Posted: Thu Nov 10, 2005 2:51 pm
by filtern
Reading more and more of banned homins..
Wont be any bad posts here if all is banned, right?
Then, this forum will be as it have become now, past month, totally useless...
*looking for door*
Re: Please Explain This
Posted: Thu Nov 10, 2005 3:03 pm
by alyssah
I just posted to announce my upcoming ban from the forum. It hasn't happened yet but it will.
Xavier, Jyudas posted that Nevrax were responsible for the deterioration of the forum. He was banned for being correct. I have had posts closed and/or removed for causing Nevrax/Jolt embarrasment not for flaming or writing lies.
I think you are trying to prevent criticism in a very negative and non constructive way. I will go further and say that your action and particularly your announcement of your action was, in itself, discourteous. Who will ban you for your actions?
I also think it is discourteous to have your ingame CSR lackeys criticise other gamers posts on your behalf. It is becoming more and more obvious that certain gamers are answering questions for you and in doing so showing us who they are.
CSRs do an excellent job ingame but inforum that sort of action is despicable.
Oh! BTW, I have cancelled my sub partly because of the lack of progress ingame but your attempts to silence the dissenters was the last straw. Nice one Xavier.
Re: Please Explain This
Posted: Thu Nov 10, 2005 3:21 pm
by aaack
As stated
here Lathan has a total of 61 posts on the forum.
Wouldn't consider them trolling either, but then, hey, maybe that's why I'm not a moderator.
And going back to Jyud's banning for trolling (let's not forget what started this all), I thought a troll was supposed to be someone dedicated to making everyone's life a misery on a forum? Sorry, but those cartoons? They made me laugh, as did many of the rp threads he did, and many on the general board. Sure, I didn't agree with a lot (and I mean a
lot) of what he posted, but I was always taught that everyone's entitled to a different opinion and a means to express it, regardless of how polar to your own it is.