Ryzom

1ender wrote:I don't know if you read my posts in their entirety but I said I came to these conclusions on my own BEFORE I read anything anyone else had posted. The fact that these posts of which I knew nothing previously echoed my own sentiments, I feel adds a little more credibility to my argument.

I did read your post obviously you didnt read mine. I stated what others were saying not "posting"

1ender wrote: Last night I was hunting with some friends and heard about the upcoming heal nerf. I immediately sent a ticket to a guide so that I could get the information straight from the horses mouth. The guide confirmed everything my friends were saying and my heart immediately sank.

For you to be sending a ticket about what you heard its easy to assume you were worried and did not think whatever your friends were sayign to be good changes in your opinion. Morever if your a trial player without even acess to ATS how can you be giving advice on balance or stating mele/armour doesnt need changes etc.. I've survived beta, I've survived FBT, I've survived Open Beta, and I've survived Patch 1

roninpvp wrote:I did read your post obviously you didnt read mine. I stated what others were saying not "posting"



For you to be sending a ticket about what you heard its easy to assume you were worried and did not think whatever your friends were sayign to be good changes in your opinion. Morever if your a trial player without even acess to ATS how can you be giving advice on balance or stating mele/armour doesnt need changes etc.. I've survived beta, I've survived FBT, I've survived Open Beta, and I've survived Patch 1

Hearing about a nerf and hearing the upcoming nerf is BAD are two different things.
Lets play nice shall we....

roninpvp wrote:I did read your post obviously you didnt read mine. I stated what others were saying not "posting"



For you to be sending a ticket about what you heard its easy to assume you were worried and did not think whatever your friends were sayign to be good changes in your opinion. Morever if your a trial player without even acess to ATS how can you be giving advice on balance or stating mele/armour doesnt need changes etc.. I've survived beta, I've survived FBT, I've survived Open Beta, and I've survived Patch 1

Actually no. All they told me was there was a nerf coming to healing which cut it in half. They said nothing about their feelings until I vocalized mine which is largely what i have listed here as my concerns. When they told me healing was being cut by half I sent the ticket and got the information from a credible source.

oh and another thing in regard to polls: http://www.ryzom.com/forum/showthread.php?t=17744

1ender wrote:Actually no. All they told me was there was a nerf coming to healing which cut it in half. They said nothing about their feelings until I vocalized mine which is largely what i have listed here as my concerns. When they told me healine was being cut by half I sent the ticket and got the information from a credible source.

The information is also on these forums in the feedback section. I'd suggest having a look through there to get some more, well feedback and opinions.

Having tested the change a little since it got puton ATS, I really don't think its going to be a big problems. And for the record yes I do heal IG on the live server and I use single heals alot. Amp speed I think will become alot more important, but I don't feel its going to be as big a nerf as perceived.

grimjim wrote: 3 - Despite the massive negative effect of Patch One which you likely don't know much about being new, Nevrax did immediately go in and rebalance a lot things in the two weeks following, getting us to the state we're in today. If the heal nerf proves to be tooooo hideous, I rather suspect we'll see some fairly quick rebalances anyway.

True they did, but not before alienating quite a few players. I don't think Ryzom can afford another Patch 1. If they HAVE to put it live, it has to be right BEFORE then. A week of tweaks will have the same effect as Patch 1 but I don't think the game will survive another.

grimjim wrote:Guess we'll find out soon

Indeed we will, we'll suck it and see. We can speculate all we want about if these changes will have a good or bad effect but until we play with it properly, we just don't know. Only THEN will we truly know if Nevrax have ruined the game we love. I do hope not but I can't see it.

roninpvp wrote: Morever if your a trial player without even acess to ATS how can you be giving advice on balance or stating mele/armour doesnt need changes etc.. I've survived beta, I've survived FBT, I've survived Open Beta, and I've survived Patch 1

So have I and I agree with 1ender, I don't see this being a good patch from a healer's point of view. However, I will give it a go, just as I did with patch 1. My initial reaction after patch 1 was "this is a mess". The first night after the patch, I logged off very early in frustration and annoyance. I felt the game was unplayable. I came back the next night and worked with it and eventually it became not so bad. Unfortunately, I think many people reacted the same way but DIDN'T come back. This may happen again and, as I said, I don't think the game can afford it. I will give it a go post patch, I may even log off in frustration, just like before. I WILL try and make it work but, if I feel they have messed up my favourite skill too much, I simply wont renew my subscription.

1ender wrote:Secondly, I see all these people in the forums saying that these changes are welcome, however no one I've talked to in game, so far, thinks this.

The forums contain a lot of information about the changes and we can see the overall picture.

In-game I would imagine that people just know that healing is being halved.

I would certainly be annoyed if I thought it was just healing being halved, but I am very happy with the the changes taken as a whole.

seems ok to me, just means people with a higher heal actually have to use the higher grade heal spells instead of lowering them down as they dont need to use them. Bit of sharp move on your part considering this is such a fine game.

There are many good reasons for the heal nerf as well....

1) Prevents a level 243 elementalist from grabbin the nearest "i just got priest" and duoing great jugula

2) Prevents 3 hour PvP battles just because one team has 6 lvl 100 healers and the other has 2 at 240+

3) Makes that Celestial Guardian title something worthwhile and not just a trophy (ie....a level 185 healer with a few brain cells is just as good currently)

4) I mean....hello.....MORE SAP AND STAMINA on every heal!! How is that bad?


Well, that's just what I can think of.....maybe you all can think of more positives that I might have missed?

lillaryn wrote:Well, that's just what I can think of.....maybe you all can think of more positives that I might have missed?

More challanging healing for everyone, one actually has to think before dropping a heal.
Also no chain-hp-healing on the tank because a single hit will knock him/her out....