Poor Karavan...

[iphdrunk]

ROFLOL indeed

EDIT: made me think that might be the reason why the most devout Karavan followers have their unfair advantage of Nexus(which is balanced by it being pvp)

It has been said in several events by Karavan representatives that the rule to not access the Prime roots - despite having a true bad wording in the lore - applies to inner zones of the roots, currently inaccessible. Myself, I thought that the lore was crystal "do not errand under the surface of Atys", I guess that's why the event characters made it purposely clear you are allowed.

This second inner zone is also mentioned if you start a new tryker and to the noob missions. One of the trainers tells you he met someone there

Also being max q200 in nexus, it does not provide for hgh leevl players, thus not really a "compensation"






oh, I almost forgot.. PvP!

[drizzeth]

It has been said in several events by Karavan representatives that the rule to not access the Prime roots - despite having a true bad wording in the lore - applies to inner zones of the roots, currently inaccessible. Myself, I thought that the lore was crystal "do not errand under the surface of Atys", I guess that's why the event characters made it purposely clear you are allowed.

This second inner zone is also mentioned if you start a new tryker and to the noob missions. One of the trainers tells you he met someone there

Also being max q200 in nexus, it does not provide for hgh leevl players, thus not really a "compensation"






oh, I almost forgot.. PvP!

Roflol, i blame being a Kami zealot that didnt want anything to do with Jena why i didnt recall the inner layers where the dragon lies. lol

Hey another thing, we been talking about the dreaded PVP, the Idolized PVE, how about EVP?? lol

Been thinking how it would be interesting at the very least if a Karavan city guard would attack and forbid entrance to a Kami follower

I shouldnt be able to enter Yrkanis and buy Matis crafting knowledge, maybe a spy could, but walking in there in all Kami colors and symbols shouldnt be allowed lol. A spy could steal a weapons technology f an enemy faction but sure as hell if a soldier from the enemy walks up to the other governent asking for new weapon technology it would hit world mass media in an instance roflol.As being rediculous.

Maybe we get a new gameplay form any current players feels united agains! Nerf the EVP!! lol

[iphdrunk]

I shouldnt be able to enter Yrkanis and buy Matis crafting knowledge, maybe a spy could, but walking in there in all Kami colors and symbols shouldnt be allowed lol.

well, that was supposed to be the role of fame and it's negative consequences. Some you can witness in game (with a very low fame, tribes may kill you on camp, no trespassing, etc, vendors will refuse to train you, things will cost more) but it reaaaaally takes a lot of negative fame.

And the fame system is supposed to be revamped one of those years, in the meanwhile, we are just getting a few ugly hacks wrt Kami/karavan so the Faction vs Faction aspect of the game can be coherent.

[drizzeth]

well, that was supposed to be the role of fame and it's negative consequences. Some you can witness in game (with a very low fame, tribes may kill you on camp, no trespassing, etc, vendors will refuse to train you, things will cost more) but it reaaaaally takes a lot of negative fame.

And the fame system is supposed to be revamped one of those years, in the meanwhile, we are just getting a few ugly hacks wrt Kami/karavan so the Faction vs Faction aspect of the game can be coherent.

yeh its a shame though, the impact of fame currently is little to none, only tribes seem to be really influenced by them, such as the Antikamis.
Or as some people used to do, killing Black Circle foragers(NPC) to gain Kami fame very fast.

Lets say where in a state of Diplomatic Invulnerability/protection lol

Im not very well informed about the whole fame sytem though, i have been doing a lot of missions but at some point it was too much of the same.

[basicart]

The zorai im on a fine line with due to once when i was young slaying many many SS in Kami Circle now and again i have to hammer up a few Hidden Sorce missions or there trainers / venders wont talk to me at all

[petej]

Been thinking how it would be interesting at the very least if a Karavan city guard would attack and forbid entrance to a Kami follower

City Guards or other race NPC's should only take into account Race fame otherwise it would be very difficult to go against youre races faction , Faction and Race are two seperate things. Bad Race Fame should get the Guards attention , maybe very good Fame they should Salute/Hail you (though that could get spammed so maybe not lol)

Faction wise (Kami/Kara) id like to see a change on TP tickets going from Free (90+) , 1/2 price (60+) , 3/4 price (30+) , Full price , 1 1/4 price (-30) , 1 1/2 (-60) , Refused (-90) , I know that would make things ackward for some (id be refused Kara) but it would be more natural/fitting imo

[drizzeth]

City Guards or other race NPC's should only take into account Race fame otherwise it would be very difficult to go against youre races faction , Faction and Race are two seperate things. Bad Race Fame should get the Guards attention , maybe very good Fame they should Salute/Hail you (though that could get spammed so maybe not lol)

Very good point, it would be like being completely banished from your own community and especialy for Trykers this wouldnt make sense at all, also would completely make it impossible for a complete race to switch factions.

completely off the wall: makes me think of a mechanism where the added total fame for a certain faction accumilated from al the homins fame tables of that particular race would determine that races faction.

So to keep it simple, most Matis start to gain Kami fame, Matis civ changes to be Pro-Kami for example. Ofcourse there would be stages in between where both or neither faction would be generally supported by the civ.(then again Matis/Matea is a kingdom and not a democracy)

Faction wise (Kami/Kara) id like to see a change on TP tickets going from Free (90+) , 1/2 price (60+) , 3/4 price (30+) , Full price , 1 1/4 price (-30) , 1 1/2 (-60) , Refused (-90) , I know that would make things ackward for some (id be refused Kara) but it would be more natural/fitting imo

Yes it would definatly be more fitting in my taste

[d29565]

All I can say, is...How mean to be some mean to the Karavan...

[sebron]

Only a sissy would pick on harvesters!

[rushin]

City Guards or other race NPC's should only take into account Race fame otherwise it would be very difficult to go against youre races faction , Faction and Race are two seperate things. Bad Race Fame should get the Guards attention , maybe very good Fame they should Salute/Hail you (though that could get spammed so maybe not lol)

Faction wise (Kami/Kara) id like to see a change on TP tickets going from Free (90+) , 1/2 price (60+) , 3/4 price (30+) , Full price , 1 1/4 price (-30) , 1 1/2 (-60) , Refused (-90) , I know that would make things ackward for some (id be refused Kara) but it would be more natural/fitting imo

would be great, but....... what about area's like SC and GoO with only one working tp? (and if u say walk then i am happy with that )