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Re: Kami/Karavan = Vorlon/Shadows...
Posted: Sat Jun 04, 2005 10:39 pm
by lienem
trenker wrote: Everything else nasty on this planet starts with 'K' so it only seems fair.
Does that include Kyerna and me too ?

Re: Kami/Karavan = Vorlon/Shadows...
Posted: Sat Jun 04, 2005 11:48 pm
by thexdane
askia2 wrote:Well it is not directly comparable in my opinion. Vorlon /Shadow was a Order/Chaos separation. and here it more of a Technology/Magic. Also the fyros tend to lend more themselves to human behavior with the Zorai to the Minbari. Matis would be Centauri with Tryker as the narn but them again it is not that perfect.
As for the ealier comment that, Atys for the homins and out the kamis and the karavan ill be careful. We still dont know who they really are. Maybe our ancestors? We shall see
Shuna
well actually it's the way i said it cause the karavan locks themselves in encouter suits much like the vorlons and the kamis all have different forms much like the shadows did
fyros are the centauri cause they are fence sitters and not really on one side or the other but pulling more towards the kami
tryker are the humans cause they're young and imputant
matis are the minbari cause they have the knowledge and scientific prowess of them
zorai well they are the prophets of the kami and the try and spread the word of the kami, just like some of the shadow races
it's not exact but there are paralells to it
Re: Kami/Karavan = Vorlon/Shadows...
Posted: Sun Jun 05, 2005 12:43 am
by totnkopf
Why are the Fyros not Narn? They were the warrior race of B5 and seem to be comparable in my view.
Matis could also be the Vorlons. They have the blindness of assuming they are the leaders, the royalty of Atys, and generally assume things, much like the Vorlons did. Perhaps just a time til the Matis realize they've been left behind
Really, I think that any of the races could be used to describe any of the others. It just depends on which aspect of the society you choose to focus on
Re: Kami/Karavan = Vorlon/Shadows...
Posted: Sun Jun 05, 2005 3:18 am
by thexdane
matis can't be the vorlons simply cause the vorlons were the first ones and well the karavan aren't of this world really and dictate how to act like the vorlons did
as for who the narn would be if anything, it's the tryker because the tryker were once the slaves of the matis. however since the matis would then be the centauri but since the matis are on the side of the karavan/vorlon they can't be that
btw fyros also were fierce warriors but they were also backstabbing and double dealers, much like the centauri were
Re: Kami/Karavan = Vorlon/Shadows...
Posted: Sun Jun 05, 2005 9:17 am
by iwojimmy
thexdane wrote:matis can't be the vorlons simply cause the vorlons were the first ones and well the karavan aren't of this world really and dictate how to act like the vorlons did
also, we dont wear toilet seats on our heads..
Re: Kami/Karavan = Vorlon/Shadows...
Posted: Sun Jun 05, 2005 9:26 am
by totnkopf
thexdane wrote:vorlons were the first ones
not true, really. They are some of the oldest surviving races, just like the shadows. But not the first ones.
If anyone remembers, Sheridan was saved by one of the first ones, Lorien, which were the race that then helped mold, first, the Shadows, and then the Vorlons. The shadows and the Vorlons were then given charge to watch over, and help mold, the newer races (minbari, narn, centauri and humans).
Re: Kami/Karavan = Vorlon/Shadows...
Posted: Sun Jun 05, 2005 11:08 pm
by johntf
Atually sheridan was saved by the first one! Teh shadows and vorlons are both members of the first ones a term used by the "new" races to describe civilisations and species that came into being millenia before their planets had even begun to form from star stuff let alone create life.
askia2 wrote:Well it is not directly comparable in my opinion. Vorlon /Shadow was a Order/Chaos separation. and here it more of a Technology/Magic. Also the fyros tend to lend more themselves to human behavior with the Zorai to the Minbari. Matis would be Centauri with Tryker as the narn but them again it is not that perfect.
As for the ealier comment that, Atys for the homins and out the kamis and the karavan ill be careful. We still dont know who they really are. Maybe our ancestors? We shall see
Shuna
That guy knows his b5 as thats what I was going to say.
I'd say they don't related next youl be drawing parallels between an obscure kids tv show jayce and wheeled warriors and b5
Oh and how spiritual are the fyros as I'd say the narns where very spiritual.
I don't know the game well enough to be
centari - you must be vain and decadent and lacking the mighty power you once had. Perhaps matis they are pretty vain.
Minbari - Spiritual people too blinded by their own spiritual laws to get on in the real universe. Chummy with the vorlons/kami too

Zorai perhaps.
Earthers - jack of all trades always the cliche hero as you know it sells it that human dimension dunno lol.