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Re: Ryzom Code of Conduct Enforcement
Posted: Sun May 08, 2005 12:39 am
by lawrence
I'd like to use the opportunity to explain a few things on how we deal with these things behind the scenes.
Some of our GM team's day-to-day tasks include investigating reports about Code Of Conduct and EULA violations - most commonly harrassment reports, flooding, spamming, or other types of inappropriate behaviour in public chatrooms inside or outside of the game.
Our team thoroughly investigates each of these reports and takes actions where appropriate. Please understand that we can not communicate about what kind of actions we take against a particular user, if any - That's confidential between us (the Company) and the user.
But rest assured that all reports we receive are taken serious and will be investigated by a member of our GM team as soon as possible.
As for the possible results of an investigation - All reports are dealt with on a case-by-case basis, which is why polls like this one are generally unsuitable to reflect what kind of decisions we make when coming across a violation. It always depends on various factors, such as the type and severeness of a specific violation, whether or not a user has previously been warned for violating the rules, etc.
Generally speaking, I would not rely on what you may have heard from other fellow players about what kind of penalty they claim to have received or not.

Further I would not be using that information or rumour to assume that the GM team always takes the exact same action, or makes the same decision, because that's simply not going to be the case, as described above.
If you have any further questions regarding this topic, I'll be glad to answer to them. While we are of course forced to remain discreet to some level here, we have absolutely no problem with taking the time to explain our policies and procedures.
Re: Ryzom Code of Conduct Enforcement
Posted: Sun May 08, 2005 3:25 am
by omsop
well in my opinion, the punishments are not enough, as the rule breakers ( it seems to be the same people all the time ) continue to break the same rules over & over.
Re: Ryzom Code of Conduct Enforcement
Posted: Sun May 08, 2005 3:29 am
by linze
Gah! Will it ever end? Now it starts on this thread.
Re: Ryzom Code of Conduct Enforcement
Posted: Sun May 08, 2005 8:50 am
by helbreat
savvy wrote:THE FOLLOWING RULES GOVERN THE CODE OF CONDUCTS IN THE RYZOM SERVICES (MEANING THE GAME 'THE SAGA OF RYZOM', OR ANY OFFICIAL RYZOM OR NEVRAX WEB SITE, CHAT, FORUM ETC). FAILURE TO RESPECT ANY OF THE ARTICLES LISTED BELOW WIL LEAD TO A SUSPENSION OR BAN OF ACCESS TO THE RYZOM SERVICES WITHOUT ANY NOTICES OR WARNING. NO REFUND OF ANY KIND WILL BE GIVEN TO PERSONES IN BREACH OF THE CODE OF CONDUCT.
You may not harass, threaten, embarrass nor discomfort any other players.
You may not use any harmful, hateful, abusive, vulgar, defamatory, obscene, racial, ethnically offensive, nor sexually explicit language to any other players or Customer Service Representatives.
You may not impersonate any Nevrax employees, Game Masters nor Customer Service Representatives.
You may not violate any Local, State, National, European or International law or regulation.
You may not arrange for the exchange or transfer of any pirated or illegal material while you are on the Nevrax websites, Ryzom Services or ingame.
When ingame, on any Ryzom Services or on Nevrax forums and authorized personnel enter in contact with you, you must respond and follow their instructions.
You may not use the Nevrax Services nor the Ryzom Services for activities other than those permitted within the game world.
You may not give false information or intentionally hide any information when you are registering (or updating your information) for your Ryzom account, on Nevrax forums or any Ryzom Services.
You may not communicate any player's real world personal information on the Nevrax forum, ingame, on the live chat support nor any Ryzom Services.
You will not attempt to interfere with, hack into or decipher any transmissions to or from the servers running Ryzom and on any Ryzom Services or Nevrax Services.
You may not organize nor be part of any guilds or groups that are based on, or espouse, any racist, sexist, anti-religious, anti-ethnic, anti-gay or other hate-mongering philosophy.
You may not exploit any bugs in Ryzom and you may not communicate the existence of exploitable bugs (either directly or through public posting) to any other user of Ryzom but report it to Nevrax.
http://www.ryzom.com/?page=support_poli ... eofconduct
most of these rules will be broken a thousand times a day in game and in real life most of us are adults who play this game so most arent scared of a few harsh words myself i havnt found any successfull game who enforces there tos too much the rules are there as a guideline for behaviour i doubt very much that nevrax will ban people for minor swearing offencess or a small in game arguement they need all the subscriptions they can get right now and threads with whining like this dont do much for the player base so would be nice if this thread ceased to exist

Re: Ryzom Code of Conduct Enforcement
Posted: Sun May 08, 2005 8:52 am
by hans1976
Another poll that is made to prove some point, to get some justice. It seriously reminds me of the "What would you do??" thread.
I seriously have troubles understanding this line of thought, will you feel *more* right if some in a poll agree with you? Will you feel misunderstood if many disagree with you? And how can you use this poll well if you have a lack of self reflexing in the poll itself?
I vote number 4, which is not there:
o Oh help me dear Jeena. Another poll made to get revenge on people I never met. This vote here will voice my disgust of all the polls that are made without the attempt to be neutral.
Re: Ryzom Code of Conduct Enforcement
Posted: Sun May 08, 2005 8:55 am
by helbreat
option 4 should be "im lvl 250 in real life and small things like this dont deserve he brain power to think about them" then id have voted too
Re: Ryzom Code of Conduct Enforcement
Posted: Sun May 08, 2005 12:03 pm
by michielb
Wheee they're all being mean to me somebody slap them....

Re: Ryzom Code of Conduct Enforcement
Posted: Sun May 08, 2005 4:03 pm
by varelse
lawrence wrote:I'd like to use the opportunity to explain a few things on how we deal with these things behind the scenes.
Some of our GM team's day-to-day tasks include investigating reports about Code Of Conduct and EULA violations - most commonly harrassment reports, flooding, spamming, or other types of inappropriate behaviour in public chatrooms inside or outside of the game.
Our team thoroughly investigates each of these reports and takes actions where appropriate. Please understand that we can not communicate about what kind of actions we take against a particular user, if any - That's confidential between us (the Company) and the user.
But rest assured that all reports we receive are taken serious and will be investigated by a member of our GM team as soon as possible.
As for the possible results of an investigation - All reports are dealt with on a case-by-case basis, which is why polls like this one are generally unsuitable to reflect what kind of decisions we make when coming across a violation. It always depends on various factors, such as the type and severeness of a specific violation, whether or not a user has previously been warned for violating the rules, etc.
Generally speaking, I would not rely on what you may have heard from other fellow players about what kind of penalty they claim to have received or not.

Further I would not be using that information or rumour to assume that the GM team always takes the exact same action, or makes the same decision, because that's simply not going to be the case, as described above.
If you have any further questions regarding this topic, I'll be glad to answer to them. While we are of course forced to remain discreet to some level here, we have absolutely no problem with taking the time to explain our policies and procedures.
Thanks for coming forward and explaining your policy on rule enforcement. It should now be clear that we can not and should not expect to see anything done when rule violations are reported, since doing so would violate your confidential relationship between the 'offending party' and your company.
What we can all expect to see is the end result of such action, which is that the community remains for the most part, mature, respectful of others, and fun. Just the fact that that this community is recognized even by ex-players as one of the best in the MMORPG industry, may be taken as evidence that the game's CS reps are doing their job of helping all of us to play by the rules.
Re: Ryzom Code of Conduct Enforcement
Posted: Sun May 08, 2005 6:28 pm
by vinnyq
In addition to the GMs, I think the Kami's have something to do with the maturity of this community too.
You know that if you been a bad boy or girl, the Kami's will come visit you in your dream right?
Re: Ryzom Code of Conduct Enforcement
Posted: Sun May 08, 2005 6:57 pm
by thexdane
varelse wrote:Thanks for coming forward and explaining your policy on rule enforcement. It should now be clear that we can not and should not expect to see anything done when rule violations are reported, since doing so would violate your confidential relationship between the 'offending party' and your company.
funny without flaming i'd say his post is more of a cop out. basically saying "we're going to do absolutely nothing but still say we did something"
saying they are doing something to penalize a player is NOT a violation of privacy or anything, as no personal information is being released.