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Re: Prospecting more than 1 spot

Posted: Fri Feb 11, 2005 3:28 pm
by ozric
Srry to disappoint some people here, but ive had more than 8 pulls and more than 60 mats from a single node.

Re: Prospecting more than 1 spot

Posted: Fri Feb 11, 2005 3:46 pm
by borg9
ozric wrote:Srry to disappoint some people here, but ive had more than 8 pulls and more than 60 mats from a single node.


Don't tell em that, or they will cry :P

Any one watching PJ, strip mine Loria..... know what can truely be done with the harvesting skills.

I the only player I have seen drop the Kami tollerance 1/4 of a bar, single handedly, in and afternoon!

Remembers something about agg rate 5, 4 pulls a 8 spot prospect. My respect to the 'Master of the Dig'.

Re: Prospecting more than 1 spot

Posted: Fri Feb 11, 2005 3:57 pm
by dakhound
most sources seem give between 40 - 70 mats
prospecting multi spots does not change that, if anything multi prospect gets you more mats.
you can easily get more than 8 mats from one dig, pulling 9 myself at lvl100 and I've seen people pull far more than that many times

Re: Prospecting more than 1 spot

Posted: Fri Feb 11, 2005 4:08 pm
by borg9
dakhound wrote:most sources seem give between 40 - 70 mats
prospecting multi spots does not change that, if anything multi prospect gets you more mats.
you can easily get more than 8 mats from one dig, pulling 9 myself at lvl100 and I've seen people pull far more than that many times



Currently @lvl 186 Harvest

6 spots prospect
upto 4 prospects at a single location
pulling 20 mats a spot (if spot doesn't empty before that)
2 digs a prospect

Therefore 2x4x20 = 160 mats a location. If a single location is over harvested I find that the number of prospects at a single location can reduce to 2 prospects, this still equates to 80 mats which is greater than the 60 mentioned in the previous posts.

I am only using rate 4 so can wait to get rate 5 :D

Re: Prospecting more than 1 spot

Posted: Fri Feb 11, 2005 5:24 pm
by zippo123
usinuk wrote:YOU WHINING FANBOI MORONIC IDIOT NEWBIE! GET OFF OUR BOARDS! QUIT THE GAME!!!!!

Just kidding. :)

Actually this seems to be a common misperception. A fellow harvester made the same suggestion to me once, and I actually respected her opinion enough to test things. I went to a single 10m node, lit up the area with like 100 sources, harvested, rested, and repeated until I got a depleted message. Then I went back 30 minutes later and single sourced it until I depleted it.

Turns out the multiple-nodes-as-a-cause-of-depletion myth is exactly that...an urban legend.

Each 10m minor node seems to have an absolute limit of 8 pulls - defined as when you actually start harvesting a source, rather than just identify it. Doesn't matter if you careplan until you're blue in the face; 8 per single node is the limit. (I used to think there was an absolute mats per node limit; it seems however that higher rates/stanzas do work quite well in busting that wide open - someone with 250 harvest can probably tell you if there's an absolute mats-per-node number better than I can.) If you have an explosion or release a gas cloud or exhaust the source, there seems to be a chance that you will lose at least one of these 8 pulls. If you exhaust the source while using any aggro stanza, there's a chance that you will prematurely exhaust the area even after only a single pull.

In no circumstances does it matter if you harvest a single node at a time or multiple nodes. Once you hit eight either way, you're done.

Obviously this doesn't apply to excellent/supreme mats in the PR, which use major nodes rather than minors.

Hope this clears things up. Cheers.



Can u explain me why, when i am doing 1 node per prospect, i can go on for hours in the same location/area. At least UNTIL someone with multiple sources does 3 or 4 prospects pops out 20-30 nodes.. and harvests only! 1. Then suddenly i waste a lot of focus to find anything at all? Or am i missing the point here?

Re: Prospecting more than 1 spot

Posted: Fri Feb 11, 2005 5:28 pm
by zippo123
dam23 wrote:Harvest the way you like, lemme harvest the way I like aswell.

Keep on prospecting for 1 source only, I'll stick to my 4 sources per prospect, getting 2 extract sessions for only 1 prospect, which means a more efficient focus usage.


I was never able to start to start a second extract session from 1 prospect... How do u do that?

Re: Prospecting more than 1 spot

Posted: Fri Feb 11, 2005 5:30 pm
by zippo123
iphdrunk wrote:Prospecting for multiple spots allows several extraction actions, one per source. I tyically can get to 2 sources, 3 if one of them dies, if you sit before attacking the first one, wait a few seconds and regen (usually having a low self at the focus consumption of your prospect), you'll extract easily 30 mats per prospection.

Otoh (I have no formal proof of this) sources seem to last longer with multiple prospection and I have seen no difference prospecting 1 or 2+ regarding source depletion. Sources tend to deplete more if they die.


How do you do that? :-)
My sources dissapear after 10(?) seconds..

Re: Prospecting more than 1 spot

Posted: Fri Feb 11, 2005 5:31 pm
by dazman76
Buy yourself Multispot 3 (prospection for 4 spots), and you will have much fun :)

Even with bonus time and specialisation, I still have time to dig one of my other 3 spots before they disappear. Very useful little trick :)

Re: Prospecting more than 1 spot

Posted: Fri Feb 11, 2005 5:32 pm
by usinuk
zippo123 wrote:Can u explain me why, when i am doing 1 node per prospect, i can go on for hours in the same location/area.


Probably because you're moving between minor nodes of a major node.

As I said, I was hoping a lvl 250 harvester gave us a tip as to what the magic mat number was. :) More than 8 pulls tho? Is that with higher stanzas ozric?

Re: Prospecting more than 1 spot

Posted: Fri Feb 11, 2005 5:32 pm
by zippo123
Just happened to me again... Someone pops up 6 nodes... leaves... and all i fget is sorry... depleted... sorry .. depleted



me no understand..... :-)