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hans1976 wrote: I also think you should watch the prices a little better or look at stats better (you bought a sleeves for 500K with no mods? What does this say about you?).

Hehe believe me, am not proud of myself All i can say in my defense is late night and long day at work=tired and stupid (and no, no beer thrown in for once) And not particularly bothered at the actual cash, coz I should be able to make that back with some committed meleeing.(500k should take a me a good 8-10 hrs meleeing atleast btw, remember I'm not the only one in a team looting)

But u've said it yourself Frydes. a 3x-4x markup is fine and fair. If I see you selling stuff at that price and its good, I will come back and buy from you again. Why? coz i know u're a fair trader and we do exist in a symbiotic relationship. I sell my loot at standard price (100%) and that is there for anyone who wants to buy it to grind.

But for me this person shall always be a scamster and though I havent posted his name here, I will post it in my guild forums and let my friends in other guilds know.

As you said it is a free market, so by the same token if I have a complaint about a product or crafter would you think then that I am justified in placing the Crafters name here for all to know?? Would it not be within my rights to seek redressal through the only way available to me, which is by negative feedback?

More thoughts anyone.......

I feel for crafters (being one myself) as after lvl 100 the lvling becomes very steep, with no support, gathering mats for yourself it can take 3 days of harvesting to gain 1-2 levels (depending on harvest lvl which is another story)

tbh I dont get why a high level crafter should even need to pull a scam for money as just the grind products keep me in dappers (making a million dap in grinds a week),

on the flip side I dont think it is right to tel someone and critisize them for their prices, they set the prices if you dont wanna pay - forget it.

And yes it is a scam of sorts to put silly prices for good/mats on the market but you can always use the nice price filter thing.

or you could be like me and spend all your money too quick to have any amount you care about hanging round in your pockets.

dakhound wrote:I gathering mats for yourself it can take 3 days of harvesting to gain 1-2 levels (depending on harvest lvl which is another story)

wow.. dude that must suck

kaetemi wrote:I always put the dapper filter on 1 dapper lower than NPC price.

Yes, that would be the safest way.


As to people selling direct they can charge what they like, they made the item. Which, means pay what they are asking or do not buy it.

dakhound wrote:I feel for crafters (being one myself) as after lvl 100 the lvling becomes very steep, with no support, gathering mats for yourself it can take 3 days of harvesting to gain 1-2 levels (depending on harvest lvl which is another story)

...let alone past 200. Mainly the reason why I got so fed up with crafting. It's madness, I tell you.

A scam is something where you are promised something and you don't get the promised item.

You were able to check out the stats and the price. So its NO scam.

Crafters are free to place their wares at any price, so what the hell people think they can criticise a crafter for placing his stuff at a price well over what other people do. Nobody forces you to buy their stuff.

Its no wonder that fewer and fewer crafter even bother to sell their stuff. You know they don't need to because money is really no issue in this game.

1mage wrote:wow.. dude that must suck

yeah it does, you should know.

oh wait, no you dont because you were an uber harver before you were a great crafter

hmmm I think I'm even wearing one piece of armour crafted by you now

when its the other way round tho that your craft is better/the same as your harv it is a pain in the arse.

(personal note to newbie harvesters, dont use the SP from your first 30 lvls to top up your other catagories)

mboeing wrote:Its no wonder that fewer and fewer crafter even bother to sell their stuff. You know they don't need to because money is really no issue in this game.

Well, that makes my stuff ever more wanted. I dont get harassed yet, maybe because I crafter guild only for a *long* time, cause I felt I wasnt good enough...

Grtz,

Hehe i make 160q

1mage wrote:Hehe i make 160q

Cool! And? You sell to non-guildies?