Extracting 2 sorces in 1 prospection

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Re: Extracting 2 sorces in 1 prospection

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Eshin wrote:The white bar isn't dependent on the amount of sources you prospect. It just makes the sources stay there longer, but no extra time for your separate extraction processes. Bonus time stanzas and terrain specs do.[..]

You are absolutely right :)

My mistake - I was thinking of anything, but not the letters I was typing...
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Re: Extracting 2 sorces in 1 prospection

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baldio wrote:You are absolutely right :)

My mistake - I was thinking of anything, but not the letters I was typing...


Are you 100% sure of this .... can you explain why you can't dig more mats of ql50 when compared to ql100, using exactly the same prospect and extraction plan (just changing the extract ql stanza) ?

ql50 uses less focus than ql100 .... so why can't you dig more mats?
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So in sum you must have prospect multipel sorces 3.

Use the same setting as you would digg a normal spot (with all time, q and other bonuses)

Or ar there enny other tips that would you guys can give to get the best out of a pull.
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blogie wrote:So in sum you must have prospect multipel sorces 3.

Use the same setting as you would digg a normal spot (with all time, q and other bonuses)

Or ar there enny other tips that would you guys can give to get the best out of a pull.



My biggest tip .... and it applies to fighting/magic/crafting and Harvesting....

Is experimentation!

Just because it worked at lvl 20 doesn't mean its the right thing to do at level 60 ... what ever the skill!

With harvesting you have so many tools at your disposal....

Terrain specs
Material specs
Gentle and aggressive rates and speeds.

Experiment with them, just becuase its a faster rate .... doesn't automatically mean that its the best rate!

I am lvl 167 lake harvest..... I still use my gentle ql170 (aggressive ql170 with carer) ... even though I can use aggressive ql180!

Why, becuase ql180 is not stable the mats extracted range from ql150-ql180 .... this is a pain for 2 reasons, stacking and XP.

There is no perfect set-up that works for every level of character, look at the skills you have and use them in all the combinations till you find the one that gives the best results for you current level.

I have been told that with 3k focus @ lvl 160 , using full aggressive I should be able to pull 20/22 mats ...... I have yet to do this, my play style must be different to the person that can do this. we probably have the exact same skills but we are set-up differently.
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I gues you ar right. I just askt becos i'm not sure i'm diggin the right way. I'm lvl 105 desert, 60 jungel, 65pr forager with all gentel settings 1.5 time and carplans2 Prospect coise, knowledge,2 sorce prospect and somtimes only linege up to exelent. I dig 7 mats for a q of 110 for around 1k focus (i have 1.7k). and have yet to finde somboddy to tray to teamup with. To see if it makes a difference. I team with harvesters to care 4 there sorce but i never knowe or am abel to test extraction 4 myself.
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Re: Extracting 2 sorces in 1 prospection

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I used the two spots prospection for a long time; it gave me the ability to choose which source/material I wanted to harvest.
But with 2 sources I was never able to finish the first and then go to the second. The second would disapear just before the first was done.

Then I went and bought prospection for 3 and 4 spots.
From that moment on I can extract from the first source and then go to the second.

This is strange and I'm not 100% sure if I didn't buy a "more source life" stanza in between and forgot to use it until I got the ones for extra spots. But anyway, extra spots is great.
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my point

This trad can be usefull and now it explains ppl how to do it :)
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borg9 wrote:Are you 100% sure of this .... can you explain why you can't dig more mats of ql50 when compared to ql100, using exactly the same prospect and extraction plan (just changing the extract ql stanza) ?

ql50 uses less focus than ql100 .... so why can't you dig more mats?

The number of mat pieces You get, is primarily related to the rate. So if Your rate is 1.5 You get that 1.5x basic mats per time unit. Here it does not matter, if You extract Q50 or Q100. In the end, You will have more focus left, when You reach the timeline short before extraction time is over.
So e.g:
if extracting Q50 at a rate of 1.5 gives You 10 mats per spot (Q50) then extracting this spot with Q100 gives You 10 mats (Q100) in the same time. But You used 500 focus at Q50 and 750 focus at Q100.

note: this example is fictive, just to show You how the variables have to be read
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I just want to Thank you guys 4 helping. Now i digg 2x as fast. i extract 8 mats a spot and can digg 2 spots per prospection. this means 16 mats. I dont knowe the time it takes to fill up my bag as i dident have menny time yesterday eavening. But boy it gows fast. crafting and foraging is now less of a grinde cos i can fill up my bag and craft faster.
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blogie wrote:I just want to Thank you guys 4 helping. Now i digg 2x as fast. i extract 8 mats a spot and can digg 2 spots per prospection. this means 16 mats. I dont knowe the time it takes to fill up my bag as i dident have menny time yesterday eavening. But boy it gows fast. crafting and foraging is now less of a grinde cos i can fill up my bag and craft faster.


*Bows*

My job is done :D

And it only gets better and better ... fast rates and speeds as you level will get you more and more mats :D

Remember as you level ... keep experimenting .....

Aim for the following:

Have zero focus when the source time runs out ... that way you are close to maximum effeciency!

A harvester with a full bag of mats is a happy harvester :D
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