The message has been sent, the time of the Kami is coming!

[vaquero1]

Raynes this was a great event. Our guild fame on our guild list went up 10 points and our real fame on the fame list went up buy at least 30 points in may of our kami allies. thx m8

[raynes]

"if you get xp" so if I'm to high level to kill icon worshippers and get xp from them, I can kill them willy nilly with no effect on my fame? (or just negative but no positives?)

I don't think it will have any effect on on your fame good or bad.

[josephm]

Yes thanks a lot Raynes. You've been a big help to many people

[bodywand]

I don't think it will have any effect on on your fame good or bad.

This is the case in my experience.

[raynes]

Yes thanks a lot Raynes. You've been a big help to many people

So when you going to join in and help us wipe Karavan scum from Atys?

[reynjl0]

/RP off, information sharing on.

Interesting thing occurred, we performed a strike on First Deseter tribe in the Knoll of Dissent. They are a Matis Kami tribe, but are declared to be enemies of the Matis people according to game lore. By clearing their camp about four times our guild fame with Matis as well as the with the Matisian Border Guards (who are a Karavan Matis tribe in same area) rose by about 13 points, yet we lost an equal number of guild fame points with First Deserter. In addition we gained 1 guild Karavan point and lost one guild Kami point.

I just wanted to point out that in this case we enjoyed a net gain of fame, unlike the situation with the Sacred Sap where we suffered a horrible loss to Zora because they are a Kami Zora tribe. We really didnt wish to lose Zora fame if we didnt have to. So it seems that if you pick your tribes to attack carefully you can enjoy net fame gain.

In an analogous situation, are there any Karavan Zora tribes that are enemies of the Zora civilization? Havent spent much time in the witherings so dont know.

-Berrule, Gladius Jenae Officer

[neiana]

In an analogous situation, are there any Karavan Zora tribes that are enemies of the Zora civilization? Havent spent much time in the witherings so dont know.

Well, I imagine the Anti Kami are, because my Zorai fame rose while killing them...

- N

[josephm]

So when you going to join in and help us wipe Karavan scum from Atys?

whenever you see me in game I'm up for a hunt...unless I'm killing a boss, but I'll be there shortly!

[madnak]

I was there and I wasn't getting a net positive fame. My personal matis and karavan fame didn't budge, though guild matis fame rose 9 points. I suspect it works like some missions - if your fame is above a certain level with a group, killing a tribe may stop affecting it.

[xenoarch]

so it is possible to be a true nuetral, with positive kami and karavan? I'm gonna work hard at trying to do this, it it turns out i become negative in both kami and karavan ,which i hope doesn't effect spawn points i already gained, i have a small philisophical change to my Wyrddis's outlook to account for it.

madnak, question what is your fame for karavan and kami? it may end up i need to max postivie and negative first before i can get them to 0. of course doing this i should get all positve for racial