Ryzom

In regards to the duel wielding of daggers it seems most people have skipped the information about where daggers fall in the skill tree, which a new player needs to know. The daggers obviously are melee weapons, but all melee attacks fall under the same skill tree, melee fight, until you reach level 50. Once you hit level 51 it splits into Close Combat, 1 handed melee and 2 handed melee. The daggers fall under Close Combat from this point forward. Punching with your fists or with a magic amp equiped also falls under close combat.

Daggers definately have a higher rate of attack and deal less damage per attack. You can offset the lower damage per attack by using an Increase Damage stanza when you attack. When you are duel wielding daggers or 1H sword and dagger you are doing 2 attacks at once. If you use an increase damage stanza and you will use twice the stamina per attack. This is something you need to keep in mind while duel wielding.

Daggers are fun especially because you attack so quickly but if you are interested in leveling quickly it comes down to damage per minute. That is where 1H and 2H melee has an advantage. In general they deal more damage faster than daggers, which in turn kills the mob faster. This will keep you alive longer early on especially against carnivores that hit hard and have lots of HP.

I would recommend using a 2h weapon to get to level 51 faster and then using the daggers for close combat XP once you get there. Incidentally if you duel wield a 1H sword and a dagger you will get both 1H melee XP and Close Combat XP. Very cool way to level both trees, albeit kinda slow.

All of that being said.... It is really up to you. How do you want to play? If you really like the daggers use them. There is plenty of room for variety in Ryzom, I would like to see more people using daggers and I will use them eventually. I have not spoken to any high level close combat people to accurately discuss the advantages and disadvantages at higher levels so I have to leave a big ?

I hope this helps,

AnimD
Out Of Cavern

philu wrote:So I, for one, would recommend investing in concentration when you have some spare SP.

Spare SP? Very funny.

sidusar wrote:Spare SP? Very funny.

That's a real situation when you get higher in magic. I've got 273 extra SP to spend and only a couple of spell lines I don't have (damage over time and a couple of afflictions). If you work on the different branches of the tree, you'll end up with a lot of points to spend.

aylwyne wrote:That's a real situation when you get higher in magic. I've got 273 extra SP to spend and only a couple of spell lines I don't have (damage over time and a couple of afflictions). If you work on the different branches of the tree, you'll end up with a lot of points to spend.

I wouldn't know what happens at the higher level. I only know that at the lower level I'm having a hard time deciding what to spent my SP on.

But good to know it won't always be like that

sidusar wrote:I wouldn't know what happens at the higher level. I only know that at the lower level I'm having a hard time deciding what to spent my SP on.

In my opinion, just pick one or two spells to work on at first. Like maybe cold and heal or something. Don't try to master everything at first. If you have cold, you don't really need rot and acid too. They're more "nice to haves".

Then, as the tree branches out, get a spell for each branch at first. Like I made sure and had one offensive afflction, one offensive elemental, etc. All you need is one spell to get xp for that branch of the tree. Once you get to L51 where it splits 4 ways, the points start coming a lot faster.

I guess you would have more SP left to spent if you already know not to learn useless spells like blind, madness and rot damage... (and before anybody counters that they're not useless at the higher levels, or when you're hunting in teams, I'm only talking about when you're just starting the game and moslty fighting solo)

sidusar wrote:I guess you would have more SP left to spent if you already know not to learn useless spells like blind, madness and rot damage... (and before anybody counters that they're not useless at the higher levels, or when you're hunting in teams, I'm only talking about when you're just starting the game and moslty fighting solo)

Knowing what to get and not to get has nothing to do with it when you get to the higher lvls in magic you will accumalte alot of sp to spend. I usualy have about 100-50 I never use.