Help!!

[plarfman]

Didn't I mention in one of my posts that I also asked for any color any quality other than basic? I'm also not asking for a deal, but seriously 1 or 2 or even 3 million dapper for a full suit of Heavy Armor??? That IS a bit much, also considering you're "rolling in the dough". Q150 armor on a level 125 is just having armor that you can grow into and not have to worry about going through the endless process of getting new armor once again. I'm sorry that I don't want to be a level 125 in q80 armor. And about the event for Kami and/or Karavan or being in the places need be...or whatever point you were trying to get at....I have tried to do everything in my time that I have on the game to participate in anything I can. But, then again, what much more can I do after only 3 weeks of being a char on Atys? I'm not a hard person to get along with, nor am I one to turn down help to a fellow player. It's just getting old looking for someone to help. But, then again we all want the best for ourselves and guild members. Shouldn't we be helping one enother....or should people who only join the guild of the higher level crafters, or have XXX amount of dapper who are "serious" buyers. Like I said, "I don't "need" it to be black nor supreme." Another thing is, if someone does craft something for me I try to keep it secret as possible, I can understand multiple /tells can be annoying. It really is a shame that I prefer to keep my character in shape and updated. I'll keep in mind that all armor that I "want", so to say, is NOT a "need", and that q80 armor is the best I will ever do. Thank you Doubletap and all the others who have helped me come to this conclusion.

DAMN YOU for thinking you could give your character Good Armor what where you thinking, you should b ashamed for asking people who are "crafters" to craft you armor, they have better things to do like making 300,000daps an hr Instead of selling you a heavy set for 500k in 5 min DAMN YOU!!!!!!!!!
-=end sarcasm=-

[tinpony]

I also harvest and craft light armor.....I DO understand where you're coming from but the only people we can get into our guild are the noobs. It's hard to get veterans of the game to change guilds lol, not like I would so I dont blame them. I do understand that its hard to level. But hey, whats the harm done in using one of the crafted sets they used to level themself and sell that for a little bit of dapper. No matter what happens leveling melee will always be quicker than craft so I can understand that crafters will probably always be behind. But, crafters always (in most often cases) have to be guild only or they say bring me the mats. In the first post I said, "If my foraging was that high I would go through the grind of leveling my heavy armor craft." I do also understand that foraging isnt the only means of getting mats. You can buy mats or quarter mats. For these cases, there are also problems. The highest Mats I ever see on merchants are maybe basic or fine, and those are mainly quartered. The only "real" decent mats are harvested, and the harvesters usually horde them in their packers for personal use or guild only once again. Just looking for a little bit of help......I can't provide the mats, nor will I join your guild, but, if anyone can craft q150 heavy armor please send me a /tell Zenith in game with a price. Thank you!


High Officer Zenith of Funktastic Love!

I bought a set in bits and pieces from the markets in Fyros, specifically Thessos. Red, choice. Cost on average 40K a piece, although gloves, sleeves and helmets are harder to find.

I am a crafter/melee without a guild and while I understand it can be difficult, those difficulties are part of the whole deal when dealing with people not in your guild or in a different guild. I like to make full sets of light, but it is darn difficult to get enough mats for full sets of heavy. Because of the way XP works, people tend to make 'runs' of certain items. 30 sleeves, 20 boots or 20 vests. Not full sets. Your best option if you don't want to pay huge costs are to gather bits and pieces and check the vendors often. If you can't get to Fyros, maybe someone will help you get there or go there for you. It took me maybe 5 days to get all the pieces I wanted, including some backups.

As for quartered mats, it ain't fancy, but if you have the choice of bringing a crafter quartered mats or nothing at all, I'd take the quartered.

Edited to add: Because of space limitations, many crafters don't keep mats in storage for long, and if they do, they are often 2/3 or 2/4 of the mats you need. Not all. So we're not all sitting on thousands of mats cackling at your misery as you wander by looking for armour.

Tin.

[bgrifter]

So we're not all sitting on thousands of mats cackling at your misery as you wander by looking for armour.

I'm sitting on thousands of mats cackling at his misery...

[nathan7]

I said the hell with it and gave in. Im now a member of OmegaV. It seems it is the only way to go. I can't get to anywhere outside of matis "yet". OmegaV may just be the start of my Life on Atys. I'm not expecting things to be much easier, but maybe things may find their way to me now instead of having endless searchs for them. Thank you all for the posts on this thread, rather encouraging or downing.

[tinpony]

I'm sitting on thousands of mats cackling at his misery...

Mektoub toenails and torbak horns don't count.

T.

[bgrifter]

Mektoub toenails and torbak horns don't count.

T.

Those are sitting somewhere underneath the massive piles of Oath Bark and Big Shells...

[usinuk]

Once crafting as a solo profession got quietly and massively nerfed in patch 1 - why do missions when they pay less than your mat costs, you can't store enough on your packers for anything resembling massive crafting, NPC grind mats got raised and payouts reduced to where it now costs me 250k to level earring grinding from q100 to q101 using bought q100 mats (which is the most efficient e.g. least money losing) - I knew a thread like this was coming.

Hey, but who cares? As long as you can get what you want, why bother sympathizing with the guys who make the stuff and get to spend 2x the time harvesting to get the grind mats to level 1 level of craft. Just be a fanboi and tell us to 'shut up to stop morale from going down', or in one infamous post that I'm still tempted to put in my SIG, that 'Ryzom...the game is perfect!'

Oh, now you care once you're past the glut of q70-q80 of items for sale? Hmmm. A little late...

Sorry if I don't sound sympathetic - and this isn't a slam on you nathan since you clearly got the short end of the stick here - but it was very obvious the harvesting and crafting nerfs were going to have a very practical effect on this game on item availability and pricing unless you guilded up with a guild with dedicated harvesters and crafters. (I still haven't - not that I haven't had a ton of invites with my crafting skills - and am one of probably a handful of q100+ level crafters that sells freely.) It just means that I've given up melee, ranged, and magic advancement for a month now trying to level crafting. Somehow that grind is getting very, very, very old.

[lariva]

Yubo with spinners... might look cool...

My agreement for your post 100%

Well, since I know you have asked me several times and gotten both answer #1 & #2, I have to point out things you bring out in this thread for perspective.

You dont "NEED" new equipment, you "WANT" new equipment. You have heard repeatedly and appear to know yourself the time and effort required for harvesters and crafters working together to get the skills needed to make Q150 HA. Knowing all this you expect not only for someone to cut you a deal, you want SUPREME and BLACK.

What have you got to offer anyone outside your guild to warrant getting items of this quality, benefits and level ?

The lines have not been drawn in the sand yet where other guilds can see who might have common goals, in race or not. We know which guilds and players we can expect to see when we do things for Matis or the Karavan, we also know those who choose to sit out or do other things.

We also know that making a set of armor for one person means MULTIPLE /tells in game annoying us to no end with requests for more crafted items. This may be a good thing for those that RP themselves as craftsmen, which is few in this game as they made it such a grind.

Those that have taken the time to grind harvest and crafting to the levels needed to provide the gear you "NEED" are rolling in money. That is why you see the high prices so only those worthy are buying the gear and not just being one of the fashion queens that seem to flourish. We are working or behinds off to provide our guildmates with the best gear we can so they can complete our guild goals.

I hope I made some sense in why you may be having problems getting the armor you "NEED"...

Putting Supreme black HA Q150 on a level 125 warrior is like putting spinners on a Yugo anyhow...

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[lariva]

Yep...

P.S. 2/4 = 1/2

I bought a set in bits and pieces from the markets in Fyros, specifically Thessos. Red, choice. Cost on average 40K a piece, although gloves, sleeves and helmets are harder to find.

I am a crafter/melee without a guild and while I understand it can be difficult, those difficulties are part of the whole deal when dealing with people not in your guild or in a different guild. I like to make full sets of light, but it is darn difficult to get enough mats for full sets of heavy. Because of the way XP works, people tend to make 'runs' of certain items. 30 sleeves, 20 boots or 20 vests. Not full sets. Your best option if you don't want to pay huge costs are to gather bits and pieces and check the vendors often. If you can't get to Fyros, maybe someone will help you get there or go there for you. It took me maybe 5 days to get all the pieces I wanted, including some backups.

As for quartered mats, it ain't fancy, but if you have the choice of bringing a crafter quartered mats or nothing at all, I'd take the quartered.

Edited to add: Because of space limitations, many crafters don't keep mats in storage for long, and if they do, they are often 2/3 or 2/4 of the mats you need. Not all. So we're not all sitting on thousands of mats cackling at your misery as you wander by looking for armour.

Tin.

[nathan7]

Harvesting and Carfting is not top priority for some other people. Some choose to be melee, some choose to be mage, some choose to be harvest/craft, and some choose to be well rounded. Harvesting/Craft is not for me, though it is sad I am forced to, to make anymore progress. If you chose to put melee and mage progress on hold to harvest/craft, then thats your decision, not mine. Sorry if I dont sound sympathetic, but grinding for months just to catch up to 2-3 weeks of melee/magic isnt my idea of how a game should be. Although everyone likes to make it that way. Oh well, like I said I gave in anyways.