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punishr
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Another new issue

Post by punishr »

Well these things just seem to be poping up all over....

Well now that nevrax is still changing skills, im alittle pissed again.

Now my self heal focus 16 seems like alot of wasted points with focus coming back after the harvest.

How can nevrax keep changing things and not let us respend our points yet again?

I know personally unless things are changed yet again, I wont ever be using self heal focus cause ill be using my life heal all the time now. So thx for wasted points due to changing how things work. Seriously, we need to be able to spend points again anytime you make a skill useless when it had alot of uses before the change.
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dpkdpk
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Re: Another new issue

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punishr wrote:Well these things just seem to be poping up all over....

Well now that nevrax is still changing skills, im alittle pissed again.

Now myself heal focus 16 seems like alot of wasted points with focus coming back after the harvest.

How can nevrax keep changing things and not let us respend our points yet again?

I know personally unless things are changed yet again, I wont ever be using self heal focus cause ill be using my life heal all the time now. So thx for wasted points due to changing how things work. Seriously, we need to be able to spend points again anytime you make a skill useless when it had alot of uses before the change.
I use self heal focus while harvesting sometimes, to get that one last item from the pull. I don't feel cheated.
punishr
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Re: Another new issue

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dpkdpk wrote:I use self heal focus while harvesting sometimes, to get that one last item from the pull. I don't feel cheated.
Im glad you dont feel cheated, me personally, I havent once been able to use up all my focus. Im not saying that self heal focus has no purpose though, I think your missing my point. Its before I NEEDED self heal focus, now I dont and im pissed I spent 160 points on it, when I wouldnt have if these changes were in effect before I spent the point. Its not right that I even consider something useless because of a change that happened after I purchased the skill. Why am I left with wasted point IMHO, that I wouldnt have if the changes were in effect before I spent them???
buzyb77
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Re: Another new issue

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punishr wrote:Well these things just seem to be poping up all over....

Well now that nevrax is still changing skills, im alittle pissed again.

Now my self heal focus 16 seems like alot of wasted points with focus coming back after the harvest.

How can nevrax keep changing things and not let us respend our points yet again?

I know personally unless things are changed yet again, I wont ever be using self heal focus cause ill be using my life heal all the time now. So thx for wasted points due to changing how things work. Seriously, we need to be able to spend points again anytime you make a skill useless when it had alot of uses before the change.

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oh wait you can only doo that in real life... +)

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daleknd
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Re: Another new issue

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punishr wrote:Well these things just seem to be poping up all over....

Well now that nevrax is still changing skills, im alittle pissed again.

Now my self heal focus 16 seems like alot of wasted points with focus coming back after the harvest.

How can nevrax keep changing things and not let us respend our points yet again?

I know personally unless things are changed yet again, I wont ever be using self heal focus cause ill be using my life heal all the time now. So thx for wasted points due to changing how things work. Seriously, we need to be able to spend points again anytime you make a skill useless when it had alot of uses before the change.

Whether or not self heal focus is wasted really depends on how you harvest. If you get down to zero focus or if you interrupt your extraction by sitting, you do not get the focus back other than the old fashioned slow way. I don't find myself using the focus self heal as much as I used to but I do still use it.

Getting the balance right on the right way to spend the skill points will take some time. In a way I am glad that I was only 86 in harvesting rather than 186. I still have plenty of time to adjust as I advance.

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jesder
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Re: Another new issue

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This is why I waited till the fixed harvesting before I spent any of the points.

I hear where you are coming from and this is just another reason they should have waited on patch 1
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tleilaxu
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Re: Another new issue

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jesder wrote:This is why I waited till the fixed harvesting before I spent any of the points.

I hear where you are coming from and this is just another reason they should have waited on patch 1
Self heal focus is a great tool, when you are high level and pulling 20-30 mats per pull in a team you need all the focus you can get on the high content sources. That's how I use it anyway. I couldn't do without it.
nunyas
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Re: Another new issue

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I still find it useful at 107 Advanced Desert Forage. It let's me use the 102 extraction counter part and get full mats (currently my max is 9) from my sources. Of course, I don't always get full mats from my sources, but that's usually when I have to use a care plan to prevent and explosion or premature destruction, and when self-heal focus just isn't available. I go for maximum gentleness all the time and use care plans when I can see that it's still not enough. Although it uses alot of focus it is much better than sitting there breathing toxic gas, or being sent to my respawn point by an exlposion that was way bigger than i anticipated.

The only points that I spent that I even remotely feel like was a waste were the "Reduce Blow-up Damage" stanzas. Had I known that they were part of the Care Plan package I might have skipped them, but I can still see that there is a use for even them. I'm just not sure how often I'll be using them though.
daleknd
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Re: Another new issue

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nunyas wrote:I still find it useful at 107 Advanced Desert Forage. It let's me use the 102 extraction counter part and get full mats (currently my max is 9) from my sources. Of course, I don't always get full mats from my sources, but that's usually when I have to use a care plan to prevent and explosion or premature destruction, and when self-heal focus just isn't available. I go for maximum gentleness all the time and use care plans when I can see that it's still not enough. Although it uses alot of focus it is much better than sitting there breathing toxic gas, or being sent to my respawn point by an exlposion that was way bigger than i anticipated.

The only points that I spent that I even remotely feel like was a waste were the "Reduce Blow-up Damage" stanzas. Had I known that they were part of the Care Plan package I might have skipped them, but I can still see that there is a use for even them. I'm just not sure how often I'll be using them though.
I agree that the points I spent on reduce blow up damage seem wasted at least for now. I can see using that in a group situation where someone is dedicated to care plans but in my current situation it is a waste.

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jesder
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Re: Another new issue

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tleilaxu wrote:Self heal focus is a great tool, when you are high level and pulling 20-30 mats per pull in a team you need all the focus you can get on the high content sources. That's how I use it anyway. I couldn't do without it.

Not saying it doesnt have uses. Rightnow the first choice is to have as large a focus pool as you can. The next in line for SP should be Self heal (to a point) followed by regen. You still need to make sure to upgrade your stanza as needed. Before the mini patch .. Regen and self heal focus were a lot more usefull than an very large focus pool and so many people picked them when they should have put the SP into focus.

Harvesting once again has various methods you can use. Actually I think the options are even greater since the mini patch. Just as before you can go for the multiple sources with shorter times or you can go for the large QTY pulls. The large QTY pulls now have the advantage of saving focus on prospecting however they have more danger and require a larger focus pool.

I like the changes to source Mode .. it now makes sense to switch extraction plans while pulling. You can also use careplans much more effectively when soloing. Overall I think the changes are nice .. the only thing I miss it the danger. I use to find harvesting more dangerous than fighting. Now it is all changed :)
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