free ryzom?

[alphacen]

But, after all, the poll speak volumes.

Read my reply carefully: no wonder why ppl say no when the question is "Would this xxx be the best solution?"

I really don't want this kind of publicity. This project are making a name in the Free Soft worl for a number of people, and is throwing Ryzom in a huge FUD. The support they have is not the community support. Then, they're making like Luis XIV: All for the community, but without the community.

What can I say , +300 different ppl think the opposite and are willing to make a try... including me, who happen to be like you: a player, a part of this community

In essence, your assumtion: "the support they have is not the community support." is therefore wrong... you'd rather speak of " the part of the community you like"

I don't think so. This project and his supporters seems very "amateur". They are making bad mistakes. I really don't think they have even a little choice... They'll present in the court with a lot of pledges, no one know how many of that money will become real cash? A bank will support it? (In Europe that is harder than in USA).


By the way, the project is about making it Free Software, not open source. It'll become GPL, what is Free Software, not open source. Richard Stallman, the GPL fouder, tell that "Open Source" is a term used by companies to distract people from the real objective of the Free Software. So, I'm sorry, but "Free Software" is totally right. Open Source is another kind of licenses, like the MIT Licence, the BSD Licence or the SharedSource License, that, in Richard Stallman words "Don't protect our liberties" (sic).

At last THERE IS A PROJECT.. ie: it exist.. it's that simple, sadly.

If you cannot see the direct benefit to have a real competition between the "several companies and/or individuals are actively engaged in negotiations to take over Ryzom." (Nevrax words) thanks to this project.. what can I say.

I prefer to know that at last a project exist out there, with its strenght and weaknesses instead of no project at all.

[grimjim]

Tell you what.

It's my birthday in the 5th.

I'll happily accept Ryzom as my present

[shinon]

I don't see SOE as a serious contender for who is buying Ryzom. I think that was just a name thrown out there in rumor by fans, because it's the most recognizable and reviled MMO maker after the whole SWG fiasco, and how much of a grind Everquest was. Ryzom also seems kinda small beans to me, so SOE probably wouldn't be looking to take over one out of how many dozens of stricken MMOs to date? (Even if I do like Ryzom a lot)

Based on little more than a gut feeling I will throw this name out there: It is possible that Vivendi may take over operations of Ryzom. My reasoning for this is that they are also based out of France, have the money to spend (and I don't see Ryzom as being sold for a tremendous amount of cash), and the world has a unique history to it, but just lacks in the polish area.

(Vivendi is the parent company of Blizzard)

[kostika]

Correct me if I'm wrong , but I believe (hehe) that it's not how the decision process is done, at last in France: there is a legal date, the 5th of December.. competitors have the until this moment to make a public offer.

Nothing can be settled before, ie: the Judge cannot give anything or even start to decide right now what he will do.

You're wrong. That December 5th date has come from Ryzom.org as far as I know, and not Nevrax. If it didn't come from Nevrax then it isn't offcial. I'd like this to all be resolved in the next 2 days as much as anyone else, but official news comes from the source, not someone else who has questionable reliability.

You keep saying that Seren's question is misleading. It isn't. The option is a Yes or No one, so her question is right. The Ryzom.org idea isn't an "if all else fails" option, they're trying to get it instead of some real company. They're trying to take Ryzom instead of a REAL company with REAL money and REAL employees getting it. This is a yes or no situation, not a maybe one.

[shinon]

I'd have to side with getting a "real" company getting the game, honestly. As much as it sounds neat for an MMO to be "player owned" ... you are guaranteed that the servers would run worse than they do now connection-wise, and they would not have the resources to properly fix and add to the game. They already don't have those resources right now.

The best thing for Ryzom IMHO, would be to bring in a "real" company, with a "real" budget for the game. That would also retain the original developer staff, but just give them the necessary support to make the game how they probably always wanted to.

[aardnebb]

Facts:
- Ryzom.org is the only buyer officially in the run... AS OF TODAY, sunday 03.12.


Correct me if I'm wrong , but I believe (hehe) that it's not how the decision process is done, at last in France: there is a legal date, the 5th of December.. competitors have the until this moment to make a public offer.

Incorrect on both these points.

You do not have to announce your intention to buy something to anyone other than the person selling it (in this case the french legal system and Nevrax). I'm not really sure where you got that idea. Simply because a potential investor wishes to keep their names out of the news pages (rather than suffer the embarasment if they dont get the highest bid or whatever) does not take them out of the running as an "official buyer".

[geezas]

It's the only Known interested party atm

[shinon]

Yes, if the choice is Ryzom.org or Shutdown, then obviously go for it ;D

I think most of us can agree though, that if the assets were to go for 10,000 euros or even only a few 100,000 euros, that Nevrax was probably very small to begin with. Even most console games nowadays have a budget in the millions of dollars.

[iwojimmy]

........

- Ryzom.org is the only buyer officially in the run... AS OF TODAY, sunday 03.12.
- The only official mention of other competitors is the following: "several companies and/or individuals are actively engaged in negotiations to take over Ryzom."
.........

where is the statement from Nevrax saying Ryzom.org is a buyer ?

Nevrax is the ONLY source of official information.

all you and the rest of these people are doing is spreading rumours and hearsay. The intent of Ryzom.org may very well be to launch an attempt to buy, but until they sign some kind of contract its just fairydust.

We have been told.. by Nevrax, that the 5th of December is when we will hear more. Dont go saying "there are no other buyers" just because Nevrax cannot legally name them yet.

/edit.. I can no longer find the reference to the 5th of Dec.. guess the negotiations are 'ongoing'

[iwojimmy]

Tell you what.

It's my birthday in the 5th.

I'll happily accept Ryzom as my present

what size server and bandwidth have you got ?