Smoke & Mirrors ?

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It could be that a few of the really big game features promised in the description of the game are waiting on enough manpower (players in Ryzom) to be there and be able to handle these big invasions. From what I've recently read, a lot of people come, and a good chunk of those people go.

If I were a game dev, and I had big plans waiting for big events happening, it would certainly be for nought if there were not enough players to take the challange on.

Otherwise, I'd hold off on that part of the promise until everythings' in check.
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trenker wrote:***Content removed: As outlined in our forum rules & Netiquette, use of foul language, racial slurs or derogatory remarks are not permitted on these message boards. While we do encourage you to give us feedback and tell us what you think, as it helps us improve the game and the quality of our service, please try to stay calm and respectful when posting on these boards.***


They are hardly the first and they won't be the last....
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trenker wrote: ***Content removed: As outlined in our forum rules & Netiquette, use of foul language, racial slurs or derogatory remarks are not permitted on these message boards. While we do encourage you to give us feedback and tell us what you think, as it helps us improve the game and the quality of our service, please try to stay calm and respectful when posting on these boards.***
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Hi folks,

I think it's safe to say that Nevrax has always been open and honest about what you can do in the game and what you can not do, what's being considered for the future and what's being developed or tested. All that info is out there and we always strive to keep things up-to-date.

However, in a game that constantly evolves and changes, it is not possible to keep all related documents, such as the game's manual, the various policies and legal documents, the various FAQ's on the website and other parts up-to-date at all times. While we do keep you guys informed of any change, through news articles and announcements, of course it can happen that outdated information stays online for a while, or doesn't get edited out until the next major update or overhaul of those documents.

To be able to keep everything current all the time, we'd have to employ a whole bunch of people who would be doing just that. ;)

The game's manual has just recently been updated and Nevrax updates the website on a regular basis as well, adding in new content and replacing old documents & pages. That's a normal process, it just takes some time. I'll be passing your comments on to Nevrax, so they can look at the relevant docs you guys pointed out, thanks a lot for the heads-up there. I'm pretty sure no one intended to leave outdated information up on our site for whatever evil reasons, that's common sense really. ;)

On a side note, now that the spring clean has been completed, which had delayed some of the features mentioned in this thread, the developers have begun working on major content patches again and we're starting to see actual results here. By just taking a look at the "In Development" and "Now in Test" sections over at the official site, it is obvious that we'll be seeing many new, exciting features in the near future, many of which you guys have been waiting for a long time.
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svayvti wrote:Way to build a straw man and attack it.

He wasn't saying EVE was great and we should all be playing it. Quite the opposite, if we wanted EVE or AO style PvP we'd be playing those games.
If this was directed at me then you misunderstood what I was trying to say. I was giving an example of another MMO with features that slipped to illustrate it's no big deal. I've played/enjoyed EVE since launch although I don't play it so much now since Ryzom launched ;)

My main point however is that missions, affecting the storyline and outposts are going to all be available in the next few months. They may be different to how they were in beta, they may be different to in the manual or how people have imagined they'd be. Regardless, they are almost here.
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lawrence wrote:I think it's safe to say that Nevrax has always been open and honest about what you can do in the game and what you can not do, what's being considered for the future and what's being developed or tested. All that info is out there and we always strive to keep things up-to-date.
not sure you ARE safe saying that actually... if they had been open about it, they would have changed all this long ago instead of a year later, when still, the features had not been implemented.
Also, only recently was the "in Development" section actually put to good use with lots of updates... and now we're at least given dates. Before it was "soon" or "near future", which are vague to say the least...

Neverax obviously still has plans to release (some of) them, but until thats done, one can hardly tote them as being the keystones of the game. The manual would be hard to change, but the website no so much... and considering they've had a year to do edit it, I'm not so forgiving...
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lawrence wrote:Hi folks,

I think it's safe to say that Nevrax has always been open and honest about what you can do in the game and what you can not do, what's being considered for the future and what's being developed or tested. All that info is out there and we always strive to keep things up-to-date.

However, in a game that constantly evolves and changes, it is not possible to keep all related documents, such as the game's manual, the various policies and legal documents, the various FAQ's on the website and other parts up-to-date at all times. While we do keep you guys informed of any change, through news articles and announcements, of course it can happen that outdated information stays online for a while, or doesn't get edited out until the next major update or overhaul of those documents.

To be able to keep everything current all the time, we'd have to employ a whole bunch of people who would be doing just that. ;)

The game's manual has just recently been updated and Nevrax updates the website on a regular basis as well, adding in new content and replacing old documents & pages. That's a normal process, it just takes some time. I'll be passing your comments on to Nevrax, so they can look at the relevant docs you guys pointed out, thanks a lot for the heads-up there. I'm pretty sure no one intended to leave outdated information up on our site for whatever evil reasons, that's common sense really. ;)

On a side note, now that the spring clean has been completed, which had delayed some of the features mentioned in this thread, the developers have begun working on major content patches again and we're starting to see actual results here. By just taking a look at the "In Development" and "Now in Test" sections over at the official site, it is obvious that we'll be seeing many new, exciting features in the near future, many of which you guys have been waiting for a long time.


I was kinda hoping these things weren't "outdated" but will still be implemented at some point in the not too distant future as those were the things that made this game standout compared to what's allready out there the "In development" and "now in test" don't show me anything I haven't seen, and rejected, in other MMO's.

If I wanted a cookie cutter MMO I'd be playing EQ2....
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Aya Im still out of here December ya cant put back whats been taken away.
Never will we see the likes of the Nexus raid and other great raids we has before january again IMO. Things now seem to of just faded into a endless cycle. You must be forgetting we have heared all the promises before and many stay just for the pure hope that something will come out of them while overs give up hope and leave. (and some stay just for the £8 a month fee to use a chat program where there.com would surely be just as good).
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I know the majority of my posts don't sound like it, but I still have (some) hope left.
Whether or not I'll be joining the mass exodous that seems to be looming depends on the next month or so, and how Neverax handles healing and PvP, amongst other things.
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