Clarification on Infinty

[vguerin]

As is typical... No matter what guild a player like Tooken is in, they are gonna have problems... I saw this problem child in action myself several times now. I still have alot of respect for Infinity and their stand on many things... Too bad they draw more flies than dung resin...

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[8bear8]

LoL DT. You have never liked me and i have never liked you. I stopped liking you when I was in your guild and you yelled at a team that was all melinoe for nerfing the xp to like 2500. You yelled at us the left the team saying forget this. Thats when i lost respect for you.


Tooken (used to be Fwuffy and Flyingferret)

[d29565]

When I first started this game, people weren't rude to one another as they are now, as most are being on this thread right now. I wonder what has taken place, what exactly set in motion this new phase of rudeness? Did you know that some people wont even let their kids play with them anymore because of how ignorant some people are in game now?
I know that there are people that I used to respect and even look up to when I was a newb, but now-they've all become jerks. I can understand the killing in PR, it is a pvp area. But, from experience, I have seen people from the guilds which do most of the pvping laugh people they have killed, and make fun of them. How immature. (Not real sure where this connects in this thread, I know it does somewhere though. Just thought I would add this little bit. Somehow, I predict negative posts from this..dont know why tho.)

[zyryx]

To add on to Fyrx's statement....

Here is how I see it.

Some high-level playres who are very much in support of PvP
don't appreciate that Booster or any other one-man guild is getting
the Sup's, because that means they can't have them. They are saying
that booster "should" not be doing this, that is is "selfish" etc...etc...etc...

Well, you got some right, some wrong.. Infinity has nothing against pvp. Personally (Does not reflect the entire guild, I think) I love pvp. I've always PvPed when I got the chance and had a valid reason to. We might not appreciate Booster getting the mats, merely because we want them and we've got the firepower to get them. THere's nothing wrong with being a 1 man guild. You get to horde all the mats you get for yourself only, but you can't get all your guildies together to fight for a supernode. We can. Thus, we get our guildies together, and fight for the supernode tooth and nail. (Aggro dragging not included, sold separately.) The downside is, we have to supply all our guildies with all the amps and stuff from getting those mats. Basically, we've got the power to fight for it because we're not 1-man guilds. But, we don't get to get everything solely for ourselves.

Now on other threads, and in conversation, I've heard these
members say that in PvP zones, they will kill anyone they want, because
"they can". They say, "it's a PvP zone, they devs made it like this for a reason, if you don't
wanna be killed, dont enter the PvP Zone. Its that easy.",
I've also heard members of their guilds say that they kill peeps in PvP areas cause "it's the
only thing to do at our levels." They do not care about anyone else but
themselves, is that not "selfish" like they are accusing booster".

Again, some right, some wrong. HOwever, some of your quotes, while maybe accurate, do not reflect the entire guild. I can say beyond a shadow of a doubt, that Brithlem would not drop anyone in PR without a reason. Some other members we have had in the past would go down into PR and just drop whomever just because they could, and they would say some of the things you have quoted.

As far as "the only thing to do at our levels".. that sort of makes sense. PvP is the only other thing to do in the game after you've leveled and ground out a bunch of stuff. So you can do various things, participate in various events, etc.. But grinding is grinding, and eventually you get bored of it..

The Booster selfish thing.. No, Booster is not selfish. If anyone is selfish, it's Infinity. We're selfish because we can be, and we can get the best stuff. Sure, sounds like I'm shooting myself in the foot, by saying we're selfish, but if oyu think about it, killing for the best mats is nothing but being selfish.

I've even brought up the argument that because you "can" do something, it doesn't
always mean you "should". These players have shot me down with statements
like I need to get off my high horse etc..etc...etc... (now i see some of them or their
guildmates using the same "should" arguments agains Booster.

Because you can drag 7 najabs on someone's packer, doesn't mean you should.

Because you can kill steal Madakoo, doesn't mean you should.

Because you can kill someone in PR, doesn't mean you should.

Aye, I agree. just because you can do soemthing, doesn't mean you should. Sure you can, but if you've got no valid reason, or even ANY reason at all, however petty, you look like an idiot.

To sum it up they told me:

"I'll play how I want, and if it bothers you, then get over it! I pay my monthly
fee the same as you!"

It appears to me that these players are all fine about doing what they want,
when they want, regardless of what other people think.
Now that someone is impeding on their game-play and how they like to play,
(i.e. taking the sup mats for a 1-man guild and selling them) they are all mad
and upset about it....

Well, I'm overjoyed to say this....

"Booster can play how he wants, and if it bothers you, then get over it! He
pays his monthly fee the same as you!"

(I am not saying that I agree with Booster's play style, I just think it is important to point out this observation.

In effect.. the ground rule is: I pay for it, I play how I want. That applies to everyone who plays the game. Booster can play how he wants, you can play how you want, and I'll play how I want.

Just because Booster plays how he wants doesn't make me get all upset or annoyed about it..

All in all, I generally try not to cause people undue griefing, but because I'm part of Infinity, I will support my guild before I support other people.

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Freakin typed a book

Respectfully,

[vinnyq]

kudos to Z for that post.

You can kill me, just don't be a jerk about it

(not you as in you Z, you as in the general you)

[brithlem]

Sorry for replying to this post so late in it's lifespan... for one.... I've been busy all week.

That aside...

Booster... the Vorax was accidental... though I'm not going to say when we saw you coming ventrilo didn't light up with "Do we really have to kill Booster" debate... most of us like ya... we did try to rez after we killed the vorax... just didn't get there in time.


Morg... we didn't dig any excel amber... because we asked you not to dig any supreme... only when did you go after supreme ... after we asked you not to... did we hit you.


Fyrx... well said as usual.


DT... Took's not Infinity "no-mo" ... so it would seem the flies migrated.


Think that hit most of the major points....

[szoszi]

Just a question Brithlem

From the screenshot:

"Zyros tells you: because frankly, it's not a very good reason -if we just randomly killed you for no reason, then sure you might have declare a war, but sine we would kill you only to protect the resources we were harvesting from others... heh"

For me that means two things:

- you think others should not declare war because of this

and the more important:

- you won't declare war if someone kill your diggers (after warning of course)

Am I right?

Actually I'm glad that Infinity worked out this policy, it's correct and brings life into the game. I'm not glad the game doesn't support this kind of policy as levels are too important and small guilds can't stand against big ones.

Ah, a small thing: I will stop to rez Infinity members from now on. Perhaps doesn't count at all but I want to show that I don't support homins who kill other homins.

Take care,
blondy

*EDIT* some spelling mistakes

[caitiff]

I am not going to say much at all except about the small guild vs. large guild. Yes, we are a stronger guild. Obviously he is a smaller guild. What stops him from allying w/ another smaller guild or whatever? Friends can help as well {edit: by no way am I trying to say he doesnt have friends, read it over again and saw it could be taken wrong ;P}

[putterix]

Can anyone explain this for me,

When u enter lands of umbra it says:

Guild PvP Are, here guilds can confront eachother.


It doesnt say, here u can kill innocent diggers.


Hope all ya crazy grifers leave ryzom zoon

[brithlem]

Exactly... if you see me in a PvP zone.... and I'm digging something you want... i fully expect you to drop (or try to) me. Will i hold a grudge... perhaps... will i drop you later... perhaps....

All depends how things happen...

We want the supreme mats... and are pretty sure everyone else does too.... if you have more / stronger / more organized people on than us.... bring it. We welcome the challenge.

We get upset when people stand in Zora and spam region with "Infinity sucks" ... declares war on us... eat our children... kicks us in the Q120 family jewels.... that kinda stuff.