Healing is gonna be nerfed!! grrrrr

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Healing should be left high or they should unnerf bomb since when ya are pvp theres always less healers then anything else (excpt ranged lol)
Having high lvl heals makes these fights last longer also, it would be over all to soon otherwise and i myself like my epic battles till the last sides is left standing.
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Looks like healing changes discussion is going in few threadsat same time
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If Healing is nerf'd nobody will be able to kill any bosses or have a good long battle in PvP, to rez someone with 4.6K to 4.8K HP even a 6.9K heal will not bring them back to fill HP. Nerfing it will make a lot of people quit... Including myself...

Healing is all I do, you've already removed my Angel Wings. Now your reducing my spells? :(
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I find that one healer is about enough to keep about 4 people who are up to 50 levels above them alive in a team. This is with single heal and double for emergencies. This doesn't seem balanced to me, it should be more like 1 healer to 2 people.

Not many people seem to want to heal (myself included) even though it is more complicated than nuking (hammer the nuke action) or melee (double click attack once and then wait for "attack after").

With 2-3 high level healers in your team it would be very easy to be undefeated. If a healer can take a couple of hits before dieing and in that time completely rez 2+ people then you can easily get a stalemate situation. Imagine a GVG or even alliance situation with over a team of healers.

How ever this affects PVE we will adapt, just like we did after Patch 1 which ultimately was a good thing. If it turns PVP into something other than a nuke-rez-nuke-rez fest then this can only be a good thing.

These changes have my vote.
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Yes but if ya comparing it to patch 1 some will adapt and others will leave. The ones leaving will probbly be healers upset with the nerfage causing us to have even less healers and less hunting. What they really need to do if they do nerf it is add some kinda skill thats only aquired through healing that can be used for other things (a more usfull one then HP shair and vamp lol or maybe make vamp free add credit for all DMG skill melee included)
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Looks to me like people are making the usual mistake of not seeing past the 'effect' on themselves.

PvP at the moment, with healers able to rez people in a single blast, just drags on and on and on, there's no real tactics to it, especially when damage dealt is affected and amount healed isn't.

Heal just doesn't seem to follow the same ascendence model of power as nuking, or melee.
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You your self in past posts have stated you dont pvp so i dont think you can really comment on tactics used. There is a great many tactics used in PvP at the moment and the fighting is great. Some people will never like PvP and some will, but changing how we play the game will only cause upset. Your guild is welcome to come and test out how PvP is used now if ever you wish it. Its not just the strongest wins all the time as tactics also play a big roll as i myself have seen
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grimjim wrote:Looks to me like people are making the usual mistake of not seeing past the 'effect' on themselves.

PvP at the moment, with healers able to rez people in a single blast, just drags on and on and on, there's no real tactics to it, especially when damage dealt is affected and amount healed isn't.

Heal just doesn't seem to follow the same ascendence model of power as nuking, or melee.
Drags on and on? is'ant that part of a great epic battle like Ryzom is ment to give us? i'd rather have a massive battle for 1 hour rather than a 5 minute battle because the healers can't pop you in 1, and tactics? you have to have the best tactics to defeat a team with a lot of healers it makes the game more fun and you have to try different things out if healing was so powerful who do 90% of people still die in PvP? its all about the tactics tbh. removing the massive heals would make healing pointless.

If they removed it down to 3k to rez someone with 4.6K HP they'd come back with about 1k HP left so a nuker could drop them every time before i healer can heal twice, that tbh would make it even worse.

They will kill PvP in Ryzom if they reducing healing its as simple as that they brag about there Epic Battles... there wont be any when they remove the healing.
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With 2-3 high level healers in your team it would be very easy to be undefeated
Long time ago (but after patch 1), when Knoll of Dissent was 200-250 zone, i (lvl ~130 melee), healer lvl ~130 and healer lvl <100 hunted in KoD..
Then i first time met Muncham... Well... Healers keeped me alive (and usually both was with full hp) near 30 min, and we retired from this fight, because at lvl 130 melee fight with named mob dont have any sense.
But we retired, not because mob killed us (We was 100+ lvls below mob)
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Try doing that now find 3 people those lvls and i bet muncham eats them
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