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hans1976
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Re: quartering

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bobturke wrote:Ahhh, it doent stop selecting when it gets a match but as there are no new targets you get the last item selected. Interesting.

Don't you still then need to hit the appropriate extraction action or do you not use mat specs?
I still need to hit the extraction key, but I dont mind, I hardly every use this macro anyway, just use the mouse to select. You kow what, allow me to make this a more lengthy post...

This was the macro, remember?
<key name="KeyE" menu="1" action="macro_exec" params="11"/>
<macro name="Sourcetargetting" id="11" back="0" icon="0" over="0" text="">
<command name="target" params="entity=Sap [Frydeswinde]"/>
<command name="target" params="entity=Bark [Frydeswinde]"/>
<command name="target" params="entity=Fiber [Frydeswinde]"/>
<command name="target" params="entity=Resin [Frydeswinde]"/>
<command name="target" params="entity=Amber [Frydeswinde]"/>
<command name="target" params="entity=Shell [Frydeswinde]"/>
<command name="target" params="entity=Oil [Frydeswinde]"/>
<command name="target" params="entity=Wood [Frydeswinde]"/>
<command name="target" params="entity=Seed [Frydeswinde]"/>
<command name="target" params="entity=Node [Frydeswinde]"/>
</macro>


Okee, but this is only targetting using alt-e. The suggestion I see coming back here is that a macro can be dragged to the handsbar. Why? It will take up a slot in my diggingbar, one that I need badly. And as it is a macro, a key can be assigned to it easily.

I see several suggestion, ranging from using no knowledge or matspec, to auto targetting/digging. One that I see knowhere is: "Remember that a macro has a 25m max range." So the macro targetting can only be used on shorter ranged prospects.

I understand people make dull prospects where they only get a few sources without further information. To save focus so to say. Let me think, to prevent useless running around (the macro has the tendency to select the spot furthest away) and loosing that third dig on multiple source5, you will need to use range1. To prevent the wrong mats a matspecialization, to prevent a misprospect angle5, choice only (of course), landspecialization for that extra comfort and accelerated prospecting3 cause I have better things to do but watch my toon glowing into her crystal ball... Lets see how much focus this costs?

range1:
matspec (general one, major)
angle5
choice only
landspec
acc pros 3
multispots5
This will ask for credit 250, using ... focus. Getting to credit 200, loose some angle and some accelerated prospecting. Lower is possible, using only choice, landspec, multispot4 or 3 depending on you digging lvl, but the chance of not finding anything and thus having to prospect multiple times increases. The amount of focus spend on a prospect can be higher, as long as it assures a single hit. (unfinished, no access to the right information atm)

Either way, after lvl170 upto lvl185, one will have little focusproblems with the gear that is available on Atys at the moment. Several rites can get your base focus up to 2000 by lvl170, no biggie...

But about actions and macro's.
The trick is in the bars. When I started the game I had *no* clue how ever to fill the 200 shortcuts, now I am running short. This is also due to having a heal self life, speed and invul on every bar. On some there are aura's and heal focus as well. Hmmmm, redundancy that can be prevented.

Current situation:
bar1: magicing, focused on healing and nuking. Top row is single spells, bottom row is double spells or bombs.
bar2: fighting. Actions all over, I shuffle them depending on the weapon I use (for bleed, ignore armor, etc) and the mode I use them in (parry/dodge). Havent spend points on called shots *yet*...
bar3: crafting. Tryker armor takes up 4 slots, fyros 3, ammo 1, ranged weapon 1, jewels 1.
bar4: lakedigging. Having a spaceproblem here
bar5, 6, 7 and 8 are otherlandsdigging. a few slots free, just not many.
bar9 is free. Yay!
bar10 is magicking focused on affliction/nuking. Have a few slots free.

Just by typing it out I see improvement. the first is to make a bar solely for finding spots of resources. No landspecs, just tracking and longranged, wide angle prospects. Top row will be simply choice/excellent/supreme prospects and tracking. Bottom row will be the same but variable with mat specs added. I will use bar 10 for this. The afflictionspells can be moved to bar 1, cause the power stanza's are deleted as well as the bombs. Who needs acid bombs but to pester the herbivores in Fairhaven with?

Second is to make a handsbar with all your power stanza's. Use one that is completely empty (if you have one), I will use bar9. We will call this the emergencybar.
In the top row lets put the helpfull powerstanza's like selfheal life at 1, sap at 2, stam at 3 and focus at 4. put inv and speed at 10 and 20. Use the other slots for aura's in a way you feel comfortable with and a way you can remember. This is for emergencies, remember?

Now lets link macro's to it. I thought a bit about it, but the alt and ctrl are very little used in the letter section. So lets make use of them :D . opening the macroscreen is shft-k. I am not behind my comp atm, but as it seems this is developing in the macro guide I promised to write for somewhat longer, lets make the best of it and update it later :p

New macro.
New action.
Open bar 9
New action
run action 1
assign key ctrl-z
Save macro.

This will, from any bar, at any time run your self heal. The second one:

New macro.
New action.
Open bar 9
new action
run action 2
assign key ctrl-x
Save macro.

Selfheal sap.

If this is continued, you can have the zxcvbnm,./ row combined with ctrl as an emergency setup on the top row of bar9. For the bottom row, use shift-ctrl-zxcvbnm,./

There is a special one here as well that is worth mentioning. Remember we put inv on slot10? I might be usefull to let people around you knwo you used invul so they wont try and heal you.
New macro.
New action.
Open bar 9
new action
run action 10
new action
type chat
mode talk to anyone
chat used shout
text: I am Invincible and Invulnerable! I will run away now as well!
assign key ctrl-/
Save macro.

There, made an emergency bar and freed a few slots on all the bars.

For the digging bars: we used the finding mats bar to globally locate the spots, we just need to find the sources now. As I want max xp, I want to use matspec on digging as well. With the use of my emergencybar, I have 10 digging slots and 9 prospecting slots (1 for focus selfheal). One for the digging is taken by a general dig, no matspec. For prospect, this is the same for 2, one for choice, one for exe. So I have seven slots for prospecting, 9 for digging. Thinking about what I like to dig, being mainly seeds, ambers, resin, oil, sap and wood, this will do. I even have slots to spare!

The point is, make a macro that uses the select source and then run action series and make sure you have all you digging actions in the same place for all the bars. You can leave out knowledge now or use it at any time, just make sure you are always working the same :D give them shortcuts like ctrl-qwertyuiop and you are ready to go.

Before people start correcting me on this, I am @work atm, no access to ryzom to check up on things. Actually, view this as a draft for a guide on "how to use macro's properly". Allow me a few days to finish it, it will published under the Open Document GPL and placed in the Player Guides section. Untill that time, the copyright on this is mine, but suggestions are welcome ;)

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ps: This might even be better if split up in different parts like:
- how to manage your handsbars
- how to make macro's

Even better will it be when it is a shared effort by a few that can write and edit well. Send me a pm on the forums if you like to edit / write on this or on parts of this.
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Re: quartering

Post by borg9 »

hans1976 wrote:...snip...
Very nice Sis :D

Macros are very useful, my carer Nine has 2 macros that she uses exclusively when we go digging.

The 'follow' macro.

This targets team member 1
and does a chat, say /follow

(has a huge range)

The 'care' macro.

This targets team member 1
and does a chat, say /assist (or use the target targets current target action)
and a run shortcut 'care plan shortcut'

(has limited range)

These two macros mean the Nine is a universal carer of Atys diggers, provided you are > than lvl 125 lake :P and you invite her to team :D
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Re: quartering

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hans1976 wrote:I still need to hit the extraction key, but I dont mind, I hardly every use this macro anyway, just use the mouse to select. You kow what, allow me to make this a more lengthy post...
<snip>
Not exactly what I was getting at, but interesting post. Getting off topic so i won't push it.
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